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| John wrote: - quote - > "Harlan Lunsford" <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
Free advice: Vote with your feet.> > John wrote: > > > I have two active brokerage accounts, with lots of > > > transactions. The brokers have broken them down by long and > > > short term, so I make 4 entries to my Schedule D and attach > > > the details. > > > > > Now I am filling out my returns on TaxCut, and there is a > > > new catagory; longer than 5 years and sold before May 1st! > > Do you You mean May 6th. > > > What is this all about? Do I have to make the brokers redo > > > it? > > Brokers provide this information as a convenience for > > clients. They are not obligated to do it. If you try to > > "make the brokers redo it", they may just tell you to take a > > hike. > Both brokers told me "the report is standarized". When I > told them that somebody was going have to do it by hand, I > got only nervous giggles. I guess I get to find new brokers! > Why would they have standard reports that don't work > properly; they are screwing their best customers. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Harlan Lunsford" <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > John wrote:
Both brokers told me "the report is standarized". When I> > I have two active brokerage accounts, with lots of > > transactions. The brokers have broken them down by long and > > short term, so I make 4 entries to my Schedule D and attach > > the details. > > > Now I am filling out my returns on TaxCut, and there is a > > new catagory; longer than 5 years and sold before May 1st! > Do you You mean May 6th. > > What is this all about? Do I have to make the brokers redo > > it? > Brokers provide this information as a convenience for > clients. They are not obligated to do it. If you try to > "make the brokers redo it", they may just tell you to take a > hike. told them that somebody was going have to do it by hand, I got only nervous giggles. I guess I get to find new brokers! Why would they have standard reports that don't work properly; they are screwing their best customers. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > Now I am filling out my returns on TaxCut, and
You could just ignore the 5 year entry. It will cost you> > there is a new catagory; longer than 5 years > > and sold before May 1st! > > What is this all about? Do I have to make the > > brokers redo it? nothing if your income subject to ordinary rates is in the 25% bracket or above. Otherwise it will cost you at most 2% of the gains. -- Don EA in Upstate NY << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| John wrote: - quote - > I have two active brokerage accounts, with lots of
Do you You mean May 6th.> transactions. The brokers have broken them down by long and > short term, so I make 4 entries to my Schedule D and attach > the details. > Now I am filling out my returns on TaxCut, and there is a > new catagory; longer than 5 years and sold before May 1st! - quote - > What is this all about? Do I have to make the brokers redo
Brokers provide this information as a convenience for> it? clients. They are not obligated to do it. If you try to "make the brokers redo it", they may just tell you to take a hike. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| John[at]john.com posted: - quote - > I have two active brokerage accounts, with
2003 is perhaps the most complex tax year ever, for active> lots of transactions. The brokers have broken > them down by long and short term, so I make > 4 entries to my Schedule D and attach the > details. > Now I am filling out my returns on TaxCut, and > there is a new catagory; longer than 5 years > and sold before May 1st! > What is this all about? Do I have to make the > brokers redo it? traders. Here are the classes of stock transactions: 1. Short Term gains/losses -- ordinary income rates, as usual. Standard offsets -- S/T first, etc. 2. Long Term disposition before May 5, with a subset of the special 8% rate for qualified 5-year gains. 3. Post-May 5 Long Term gains -- New, maximum rate of 15% (5% in lowest bracket). 4. The good, old 28% gain. 5. Plus, this *special bonus* -- Qualified Dividends (your broker will probably have noted any that meet the standards), are taxed at a 15%/5% rate -- and even though they are reported on Schedule B, and broken out on line 9b, they enter into the Schedule D calculations. That's why you have all the special categories of reports. Now, the reference to May 1st might relate to the "Trade date" vs. "Settlement date" issue. [Note: Schedule D instructions speak of "dispositions" after May 5 ... which TaxCut might be construing as "settlements". Please observe that this is a _guess. Usually, the trade date is the reported date ... but "dispositions" does suggest a curve ball.] You should ask TaxCut about this issue. Bill << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| John wrote: - quote - > I have two active brokerage accounts, with lots of
For a few years, assets held longer than 5 years was subject> transactions. The brokers have broken them down by long and > short term, so I make 4 entries to my Schedule D and attach > the details. > Now I am filling out my returns on TaxCut, and there is a > new catagory; longer than 5 years and sold before May 1st! to a lower capital gains tax rate if you are in the 15% or less tax bracket. Taxes for ALL capital gains were lowered effective May 1st, so this doesn't apply any more. Your categories NOW are I. Short term gain/loss (I don't know whether that's divided on whether it's before or after May 1; it depends on the order of netting transaction.) II. Long term gain/loss A. Recognized after May 1. B. Recognized before May 1. 1. Gains on assets held over 5 years. 2. All other gains/losses. This ignores unrecaptured section 1250 gain, and 28% gain/loss, which are unlikely to occur in assets in a brokerage account. Have I missed any other capital gain/loss classes? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "John" <John[at]john.com> writes: - quote - > I have two active brokerage accounts, with lots of
The tax law for capital gains changed on 1 May 2003. For> transactions. The brokers have broken them down by long and > short term, so I make 4 entries to my Schedule D and attach > the details. > Now I am filling out my returns on TaxCut, and there is a > new catagory; longer than 5 years and sold before May 1st! > What is this all about? long-term gains on sales after 1 May, the tax rate is 5%/15%. For long-term gains on sales before 1 May, the tax rate is 10%/20%, unless it was held more than 5 years, in which case for some people the tax rate can be 8%. - quote - > Do I have to make the brokers redo it?
If you can convince them to. Otherwise you'll haveto redo it yourself (or put all the individual entries on Sched D). -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I have two active brokerage accounts, with lots of transactions. The brokers have broken them down by long and short term, so I make 4 entries to my Schedule D and attach the details. Now I am filling out my returns on TaxCut, and there is a new catagory; longer than 5 years and sold before May 1st! What is this all about? Do I have to make the brokers redo it? thanks. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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