Do you still have them sign an 8453 "Just In Case"?

#3 02-11-2004, 02:56 PM

Therese Thomas, EA wrote:
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> "Don Priebe" <priebe[at]iname.com> wrote:

> > When 8453 vs. PIN is discussed, some of the EROs who are
> > using PINs say they still have the clients sign an 8453
> > "just in case" something goes wrong. Last year was my first
> > year using PINs, I had them sign both forms, and nothing
> > went wrong. This year, using the Practitioner PIN where you
> > don't even need the previous AGI or birthdays, it seems that
> > the chances of "something going wrong" are slim if not zero.
> > Am I wasting a lot of paper unnecessarily?

> You hit the crux of the matter right on the center of the
> head!! The IRS has virtually eliminated the need for 8453
> forms with the elimination of prior year AGI on the 8879.
> Why waste time and postage? Been racking my brain and I
> cannot figure a scenario where I would be forced to use the
> 8453 now. I'll bet the form will be gone by next year.

Therea, Not even for a daughter who has dad's POA since he
has Alzheimers? I seem to remember 8453's required for all
with signing with POA's, e.g. military wives with husbands
over the water.

Cheer$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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#2 02-11-2004, 01:39 PM

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> Been racking my brain and I
> cannot figure a scenario where I would be forced to use the
> 8453 now.

Form 8332 is one. And there are 4 others.

Helen, EA in PA
Member of The Tax Gang
Director, National Assoication of Enrolled Agents
Immediate Past President, PA Society of Enrolled Agents

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#1 02-11-2004, 12:03 PM

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> Been racking my brain and I
> cannot figure a scenario where I would be forced to use the
> 8453 now. I'll bet the form will be gone by next year.

What about those annoying "shareholder Statement Pursuant to
Treasury Regulation Section 1.355-5(b)" statements that are
supposed to be included with returns for shareholders that
received spinoff shares.

What is everyone doing with them? They are supposed to be
attached to the return but lots of people I have talked to
just seem to keep them on file and never send them in.

All freely provided advice guarantee correct or double your
money back

Frank S. Duke, Jr. CPA
Cincinnati, OH USA

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02-10-2004, 04:28 AM

"Don Priebe" <priebe[at]iname.com> wrote:

- quote -

> When 8453 vs. PIN is discussed, some of the EROs who are
> using PINs say they still have the clients sign an 8453
> "just in case" something goes wrong. Last year was my first
> year using PINs, I had them sign both forms, and nothing
> went wrong. This year, using the Practitioner PIN where you
> don't even need the previous AGI or birthdays, it seems that
> the chances of "something going wrong" are slim if not zero.
> Am I wasting a lot of paper unnecessarily?

You hit the crux of the matter right on the center of the
head!! The IRS has virtually eliminated the need for 8453
forms with the elimination of prior year AGI on the 8879.
Why waste time and postage? Been racking my brain and I
cannot figure a scenario where I would be forced to use the
8453 now. I'll bet the form will be gone by next year.

Therese Thomas, EA

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#-1 02-06-2004, 09:57 AM

When 8453 vs. PIN is discussed, some of the EROs who are
using PINs say they still have the clients sign an 8453
"just in case" something goes wrong. Last year was my first
year using PINs, I had them sign both forms, and nothing
went wrong. This year, using the Practitioner PIN where you
don't even need the previous AGI or birthdays, it seems that
the chances of "something going wrong" are slim if not zero.
Am I wasting a lot of paper unnecessarily?

--
Don EA in Upstate NY

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