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| Phil Marti wrote: - quote - > rstewart[at]rochester.rr.com (sand20man) writes:
I disagree. In that case, the never-married parents CHOSE> > OK, here we go again. Now Publication 501 state that if you > > were unmarried the special rules are applied for divorced or > > sperated parents. Last year it stated this differently. > The law changed in 2003 because of the Tax Court. Now the > same rules that apply to formerly married parents apply to > parents who were never married. to execute a form 8332, and thus became bound by its meaning. I do not see how this would change a thing for never-married parents who do NOT use the form. I don't see where the Court said that the never-married MUST use the form.... Form 8332, the administrative result of IRC 152(e)(2), can only apply to transfer the dependency exemption for children described in 152(e)(1)(A), of which (i) ff. requires parents "who are divorced or legally separated ...," whether in actuallity or just temporarily and informally (the 6 month clause in (iii)). [Interesting aside: If the parents were legally married, but never filed a joint return, but [one or both] qualified and filed as HoH, should they be considered as "never-married" since for all years, they were considered as "unmarried" per IRC 7703(b) for tax purposes?] :-) - quote - > > I pay 67% of day care expense, Full medical provided by me,
I disagree (as above). There's no way that SHE can meet the> > and I also pay $500 in child support. We were never married, > > have been apart for 3 years, she re-married this year and I > > have a court order stating I have joint custody but the > > child lives at the mothers house. I pay well over half of > > the support for the child. Someone please Clear this up for > > me or have better knowledge about this, their is no way she > > would fill out a 8332 form to release her. > Then there's no way you can get the exemption. support test, but you do. - quote - > > Can I take this
Without knowing what was actually argued in the trial> > to court. > You can take just about anything to court, but you'd > probably lose. You'd have to pay the additional tax, claim > a refund, and then sue for refund after denial. briefs, I would be hesitant to state anything about the correctness of the Court's opinion. - quote - > > Turbotax online says I can claim her by the GUIDE
Perhaps their interpretation differs from the IRS for the> > ME section but what I am reading in Publication 501 this > > year, say's I cannot. > TT hasn't caught up with the law. reasons above. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Phil Marti wrote: - quote - > rstewart[at]rochester.rr.com (sand20man) writes: - quote - > > OK, here we go again. Now Publication 501 state that if you
Actually the law didn't change--rather, the Tax Court ruled> > were unmarried the special rules are applied for divorced or > > sperated parents. Last year it stated this differently. > The law changed in 2003 because of the Tax Court. Now the > same rules that apply to formerly married parents apply to > parents who were never married. that the way the IRS was *interpreting* the law was incorrect. The IRS has now accepted the Tax Court's view on this one, and that resulted in the change in the publications. That's important because, in reality, the custodial parent in this case could file a claim for refund for all open years if she hadn't claimed the child. The flip side of that is that the IRS could attempt to claim tax due from the noncustodial parent, but politically that would be difficult <grin> . -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| sand20man wrote: - quote - > OK, here we go again. Now Publication 501 state that if you
As the court order does not specify who is the custodial> were unmarried the special rules are applied for divorced or > sperated parents. Last year it stated this differently. I > pay 67% of day care expense, Full medical provided by me, > and I also pay $500 in child support. We were never married, > have been apart for 3 years, she re-married this year and I > have a court order stating I have joint custody but the > child lives at the mothers house. I pay well over half of > the support for the child. Someone please Clear this up for > me or have better knowledge about this, their is no way she > would fill out a 8332 form to release her. Can I take this > to court. Turbotax online says I can claim her by the GUIDE > ME section but what I am reading in Publication 501 this > year, say's I cannot. parent, (it says joint) the parent who has physical custody for more than half the year is deemed to have provided more than half of the total support and would get the exemption. I sense from your post that she has physical custody. If that's the case, she would have to release the exemption to you on a Form 8332 in order for you to claim it. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| rstewart[at]rochester.rr.com (sand20man) writes: - quote - > OK, here we go again. Now Publication 501 state that if you
The law changed in 2003 because of the Tax Court. Now the> were unmarried the special rules are applied for divorced or > sperated parents. Last year it stated this differently. same rules that apply to formerly married parents apply to parents who were never married. - quote - > I pay 67% of day care expense, Full medical provided by me,
Then there's no way you can get the exemption.> and I also pay $500 in child support. We were never married, > have been apart for 3 years, she re-married this year and I > have a court order stating I have joint custody but the > child lives at the mothers house. I pay well over half of > the support for the child. Someone please Clear this up for > me or have better knowledge about this, their is no way she > would fill out a 8332 form to release her. - quote - > Can I take this
You can take just about anything to court, but you'd> to court. probably lose. You'd have to pay the additional tax, claim a refund, and then sue for refund after denial. - quote - > Turbotax online says I can claim her by the GUIDE
TT hasn't caught up with the law.> ME section but what I am reading in Publication 501 this > year, say's I cannot. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| OK, here we go again. Now Publication 501 state that if you were unmarried the special rules are applied for divorced or sperated parents. Last year it stated this differently. I pay 67% of day care expense, Full medical provided by me, and I also pay $500 in child support. We were never married, have been apart for 3 years, she re-married this year and I have a court order stating I have joint custody but the child lives at the mothers house. I pay well over half of the support for the child. Someone please Clear this up for me or have better knowledge about this, their is no way she would fill out a 8332 form to release her. Can I take this to court. Turbotax online says I can claim her by the GUIDE ME section but what I am reading in Publication 501 this year, say's I cannot. PLEASE HELP << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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