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| David Moore wrote: - quote - > We own homes in IN and FL. Being residents of FL has
You should be aware that residence is defined differently in> considerable advantages (no state income tax, real estate > tax increases capped). But we don't want to commit to > 6 > months physical residence in FL. > Both web search and talking with other split-year residents > suggests that FL doesn't insist on 6 months' presence. > Register to vote, register your car, get drivers license, > show residence by showing you own a home, and FL is happy. > > `Everybody does it'' say others. > IN may be less happy if we declare FL our residence but are > physically in IN more than half the year. > If it matters, I'm self-employed, so no employer in either > state. > Before I talk to a lawyer (or two, one in each state), any > wisdom on moving legal residence in this way? different states but, also, can be different concepts for tax and legal purposes. Registering to vote, etc. may be important for legal residence determination but can be irrelevant for tax purposes. What is important, taxwise, is your "tax home." Essentially,this is a facts and circumstances determination based primarily on where the business is conducted. In your case, I think it could be argued that Indiana is your tax home, even if you do spent a significant amount of time in Florida. You need to review this issue with a professional advisor who is familiar with the issues and who can examine all the facts involved. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| dsmoore[at]stat.purdue.edu (David Moore) wrote: - quote - > We own homes in IN and FL. Being residents of FL has
It really doesn't matter what FL thinks, unless you have> considerable advantages (no state income tax, real estate > tax increases capped). But we don't want to commit to > 6 > months physical residence in FL. > Both web search and talking with other split-year residents > suggests that FL doesn't insist on 6 months' presence. > Register to vote, register your car, get drivers license, > show residence by showing you own a home, and FL is happy. > `Everybody does it'' say others. > IN may be less happy if we declare FL our residence but are > physically in IN more than half the year. > If it matters, I'm self-employed, so no employer in either > state. > Before I talk to a lawyer (or two, one in each state), any > wisdom on moving legal residence in this way? enough intangible assets to be subject to its intangible property tax. What matter is what IN thinks. IN defines a resident as a person who is domiciled in Indiana, or who maintains a permanent place of abode in IN and spends more than 183 days of the taxable year there. So your FIRST requirement is to change your DOMICILE from IN to FL. THEN you will be a nonresident of IN as long as you do not spend more than 183 days of any taxable year in the state. You can be a resident for tax purposes of more than one state at the same time, but you only have one domicile at a time. That doesn't stop two states from taking different positions as to which is your domicile <G> . Your domicile is your true, fixed home and permanent establishment; the place to which, whenever absent, you intend to return. Such ties as voter registration, driver's license, use of professional services (doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc.), maintenance of items "near and dear" (keepsakes, antiques, heirlooms), banking and other financial relationships, and so on are indicia of domicile, but none by itself is necessarily determinative. Assuming you started out in Indiana and acquired the FL residence at some later time, your domicile is in Indiana. In order to change domicile, generally you must meet all of three requirements: (1) abandonment of the previous domicile (physically moving away from it); (2) moving to and residing in a new location; and (3) intending to remain in the new location permanently or indefinitely. It may be possible to change your domicile to Florida without giving up your place of abode in Indiana, but if you want to keep the IN residence you must sever your other ties to the state as completely as possible. That means spending a minimum amount of time there. I would recommend consulting with an attorney in Indiana who is thoroughly familiar with the Indiana tax law. It may be possible to achieve the desired result, but there will be risk involved. "Everybody does it" is likely true, but it won't save you when the tax authorities come to call. Just a word of warning .... Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > "FL doesn't care because it doesn't have income tax but
Not Governor Jeb. Under his influence, the exemptions for> they love to collect the intangible tax," this year have been raised from $20,000/$40,000 to $250,000/$500,000. He is still in favor of eliminating the tax completely. Sound familiar? (Or should I say "family-er"?) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| dsmoore[at]stat.purdue.edu (David Moore) wrote: - quote - > We own homes in IN and FL. Being residents of FL has
Primary residence can be a matter of judgement where one> considerable advantages (no state income tax, real estate > tax increases capped). But we don't want to commit to > 6 > months physical residence in FL. > Both web search and talking with other split-year residents > suggests that FL doesn't insist on 6 months' presence. > Register to vote, register your car, get drivers license, > show residence by showing you own a home, and FL is happy. > `Everybody does it'' say others. > IN may be less happy if we declare FL our residence but are > physically in IN more than half the year. > If it matters, I'm self-employed, so no employer in either > state. > Before I talk to a lawyer (or two, one in each state), any > wisdom on moving legal residence in this way? looks at the various indicators you listed, including time spent in each state. FL does not care, but IN will look closely at your evidence. As a self-employed you have additional concerns: business licence, address, etc. And even if you spend 6+ months in FL, the business income you earn while in IN will likely be taxable in IN regardless of your state of primary residence. (Just ask any athlete or performer how many states they have to file regardless of where they live in the off-season.) Also, if you plan to sell either house it becomes very important which one qualifies for the exclusion of gain. (Although both could with proper planning and timing.) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| dsmoore[at]stat.purdue.edu (David Moore) wrote in - quote - > IN may be less happy if we declare FL our residence but are
OH says you are a resident if you are in the state more than> physically in IN more than half the year. 180 days which do not have to be consecutive. A truck driver who crisscrosses the state too many times could be declared a resident for tax purposes <g> . Check Indiana's law on residency. FL doesn't care because it doesn't have income tax but they love to collect the intangible tax, Martha Matthews, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| We own homes in IN and FL. Being residents of FL has considerable advantages (no state income tax, real estate tax increases capped). But we don't want to commit to > 6 months physical residence in FL. Both web search and talking with other split-year residents suggests that FL doesn't insist on 6 months' presence. Register to vote, register your car, get drivers license, show residence by showing you own a home, and FL is happy. - quote - > `Everybody does it'' say others.
IN may be less happy if we declare FL our residence but arephysically in IN more than half the year. If it matters, I'm self-employed, so no employer in either state. Before I talk to a lawyer (or two, one in each state), any wisdom on moving legal residence in this way? Thanks, David << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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