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| "T. James Selwyn" <Spam_I_Am[at]eggsNspam.invalid> wrote: - quote - > In 12/03 my tuition support ceased, and I received a bill
If you paid the bill in 2004, it is a 2004 deduction.> for the winter term that began in 1/04. I paid this bill > after the first of the year, yet my new 1098-T (which > contains numbers for the first time ever) reflects this > payment as a 2003 expense. For all but one of the preceding > terms in CY 2003, tuition is offset by aid, which makes > sense. My girlfriends school actually asks each student when they want the bill to be paid (if they are using loans) so they can pick the tax year. bex << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Ignore any numbers on the 1098-T. . . .
Does the IRS attempt to match the numbers on the 1098-T to> They use different rules for preparing the 1098-T > than you do. You use the rules in Publication 970. the return? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "T. James Selwyn" <Spam_I_Am[at]eggsNspam.invalid> writes: - quote - > In 12/03 my tuition support ceased, and I received a bill
Ignore any numbers on the 1098-T. You have a 2004 education> for the winter term that began in 1/04. I paid this bill > after the first of the year, yet my new 1098-T .... expense which you'll deal with on your 2004 return (next year). They use different rules for preparing the 10980-T than you do. You use the rules in Publication 970. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Short history: I'm a grad student. I had 100% non-taxable tuition support thru 12/03. I never deducted "qualified expenses" b/c they were always offset by aid. My 1098-T forms were always blank b/c the issuer chose not to report the expense & aid figures to the IRS. In 12/03 my tuition support ceased, and I received a bill for the winter term that began in 1/04. I paid this bill after the first of the year, yet my new 1098-T (which contains numbers for the first time ever) reflects this payment as a 2003 expense. For all but one of the preceding terms in CY 2003, tuition is offset by aid, which makes sense. But for the winter term beginning in 1/03, only the aid is listed--they've allocated the corresponding tuition charge to 2002, which makes my net deductible zero. This is evidently a "feature" of the college's accounting method: they bill for winter term in December, but wait until January to credit any aid. (I never paid any attention to this arbitrary practice before, because it was internal to the college; I never had to write a check myself until this month.) It should be simple: over my entire tenure as a student I have precisely one non-reimbursed tuition expense, incurred years after the tax relief act was passed. I should be able to deduct it somewhere. Yet my 1098-T for 2003 shows everything breaking even! If I go back and look in 2002 for the missing money, the pattern repeats: the December tuition expense (for the winter term starting 1/03) is negated by an equal subsidy in January (for the winter term starting 1/02), and the terms in between are once more a wash. Each time the deduction "escapes" into the prior year, and of course I soon hit the cutoff for filing amended returns. The one thing I may have going for me is that none of these prior-year contortions were reported to the IRS--after all, they got the same blank 1098-T I did through 2002. So, should I A) "correct" the latest 1098-T by including the tuition for the Jan. 2003 term as a 2003 amount so that they zero out, leaving the current term's expenses as a deduction OR B) file an amended 2002 return claiming the 11/02 tuition bill as a deduction, and let the latest 1098-T stand (ie no deduction in 2003 or 2004) OR C) ignore the entire issue and take no deductions until next year, when I can deduct the only expense I ever actually wrote a check for in the year I actually paid it (i.e., 2004)? Sorry for the length, Jim S. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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