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<Snipped> > > federal govt ~$3000, even though we have no external sources > > > of income (i.e. income other than our salaries), and we have > > > 0 state and federal Exemptions and have our status as > > > 'Married'. How is this possible? This happens more often than many non-pros realize. In my experience, here's why - Your employer is only allowed to calculate withholding on your wages, he does not include your spouse's earning. Of course, your spouse's employer does the same. When a married couple files W-4s that show "Married - 0 Exemptions" both employers assume that the standard deduction applies to both of you. Also, the employer's use the tax rates that apply to your individual incomes. This causes a gap because once your incomes are combined you may end up in a higher tax bracket. For example, say you and wife both make $65,000 each. Both W-4s are M-0. Here's what happens: Both employers start with $65,000, then subtract $9,500. This makes your taxable income $55,500. When your employer goes to the tax tables he will withhold approximately $7,625. The first $14K is at 10% and the rest is at 15%. The same thing happens to your spouse - so you wind up with $15,250 in Federal withholding. However, when you file your tax returns your combined incomes total $130,000. Then you subtract $9500 for the standard deduction and $6,100 for two personal exemptions. This leaves you with taxable income of $114,400. Your tax liability is now $22,120. The first $14K is at 10%, from $14,001 to $56,800 is at 15%, and the rest is at 25% - Your combined incomes have just pushed you from the 15% bracket (where your withholdings were) to the 25% bracket - however your withholding capped at the 15% bracket. Again, because neither employer considers what happens with the other spouse. My general recommendation for most married couples is this - withhold as SINGLE with ZERO exemptions. The employers will withhold more tax and you won't have such a big bill at tax time. Good luck, Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| More than $1000 overdue means you should compute and pay estimated taxes each quarter. When you pay the IRS more than $1000 this season, they'll send you the 1040ES forms. Usually the first year of a large shortfall is not penalized, but future years will be. If you income is uneven and more of it in the second half of the year it may be worth it compute estimated taxes the long way. The short way is to pay one quarter of your shortfall each quarter. The long way is compute form 2210- the estimated tax penalty. You use this computation to figure out the minimum needed to avoid the penalty. The 2210 is essentially to annualize your income-to-date each quarter, i.e. compute your taxes four times a year. (And fifth on April 15). First quarter is due April 15. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > I just came to the realization that my wife and I owe the
How did you come to this realization? Have you finished> > federal govt ~$3000, even though we have no external sources > > of income (i.e. income other than our salaries), and we have > > 0 state and federal Exemptions and have our status as > > 'Married'. How is this possible? preparing your return and, if so, are you sure you did it correctly? Something sounds very strange. Jan Zobel EA Oakland, CA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| kevin91822000[at]yahoo.com (Kev) wrote: - quote - > I just came to the realization that my wife and I owe the
Marking you both as single will cause more taxes to be> federal govt ~$3000, even though we have no external sources > of income (i.e. income other than our salaries), and we have > 0 state and federal Exemptions and have our status as > 'Married'. How is this possible? > How do I need to setup my W2 so that I will NOT owe money at > the end of the year?!?!? Someone told me to mark us both as > 'Single', but I'm having a difficult time believing it. The > govt just keeps screwing me. withheld from each of your paychecks. Generally people wanting to withold as married put down 2 exemptions on their W-4, 1 for themselves and 1 for their spouse. If both spouses work and mark their W-4's in the same fashion, then each are withholding for 2 people or 4 withholdings in total. This is why you are underpaying during the year. Married assumes 2 people, 1 income. Use the two earner/two job worksheet on the back of the W-4 to get a more accurate calculation of your withholdings. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I just came to the realization that my wife and I owe the
It would help if you told us the amounts shown on your W2s> federal govt ~$3000, even though we have no external sources > of income (i.e. income other than our salaries), and we have > 0 state and federal Exemptions and have our status as > 'Married'. How is this possible? > How do I need to setup my W2 so that I will NOT owe money at > the end of the year?!?!? Someone told me to mark us both as > 'Single', but I'm having a difficult time believing it. The > govt just keeps screwing me. for wages (Box 1) and federal withholding. Also, are you filing jointly? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| kevin91822000[at]yahoo.com says... - quote - > I just came to the realization that my wife and I owe the
Don't base your tax situation on what you owe at the end of> federal govt ~$3000, even though we have no external sources > of income (i.e. income other than our salaries), and we have > 0 state and federal Exemptions and have our status as > 'Married'. How is this possible? > How do I need to setup my W2 so that I will NOT owe money at > the end of the year?!?!? Someone told me to mark us both as > 'Single', but I'm having a difficult time believing it. The > govt just keeps screwing me. the year. If you are comfortable setting aside money throughout the year, you are better off owing money each April than getting a refund. If only one of you worked you would be in a lower tax bracket, but with both of you working, you move up a bracket or two. The advice to file your W-4 (not your W-2) as "Single" is probably sound. Go to www.paycheckcity.com to see how your withholding would change. Gary -- You can probably X figure out X which letters to X delete to derive my email address X. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Kev" <kevin91822000[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I just came to the realization that my wife and I owe the
Without more specific information, I don't believe your> federal govt ~$3000, even though we have no external sources > of income (i.e. income other than our salaries), and we have > 0 state and federal Exemptions and have our status as > 'Married'. How is this possible? > How do I need to setup my W2 so that I will NOT owe money at > the end of the year?!?!? Someone told me to mark us both as > 'Single', but I'm having a difficult time believing it. The > govt just keeps screwing me. question can be properly answered. Wayne Brasch, CPA, M. S. Taxation << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I just came to the realization that my wife and I owe the federal govt ~$3000, even though we have no external sources of income (i.e. income other than our salaries), and we have 0 state and federal Exemptions and have our status as 'Married'. How is this possible? How do I need to setup my W2 so that I will NOT owe money at the end of the year?!?!? Someone told me to mark us both as 'Single', but I'm having a difficult time believing it. The govt just keeps screwing me. -K << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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