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Yes, but with the basis step up (either 50% or 100%> bought it in 1972. My mother is 85. Her spouse is quite ill > and could die in 12-18 months. > If they sold the house now - they'd get the $500K cap gains > break. They file jointly. What would happen if he dies > while they still owned the house. Does she lose his $250K ? depending on state law), the "need" for the exemption also disappears in the short run. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A <A[at]aol.net> wrote: - quote - > My mother's house has appreciated about $600K since they
What state? How is the title to the house held?> bought it in 1972. My mother is 85. Her spouse is quite ill > and could die in 12-18 months. > If they sold the house now - they'd get the $500K cap gains > break. They file jointly. What would happen if he dies > while they still owned the house. Does she lose his $250K ? It's possible that upon his death, she inherits his half with a step-up in basis. Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A <A[at]aol.net> wrote: - quote - > My mother's house has appreciated about $600K since they
A,> bought it in 1972. My mother is 85. Her spouse is quite ill > and could die in 12-18 months. > If they sold the house now - they'd get the $500K cap gains > break. They file jointly. What would happen if he dies > while they still owned the house. Does she lose his $250K ? > What if he died in Feb 2005 and she sold the house in Nov > 2005 - same tax year. > What if he died in Nov 2004 and she sells the house in June > 2005 - different tax years. With the problem that you're addressing you may be missing a huge issue. It's called "stepped up basis" upon the death of one spouse. If they live in a community property state and the property is held as community property, the new basis for the WHOLE property becomes the FMV at time of death. If not and otherwise, if held as JTWRS, half steps up to FMV upon the death of one co-owner spouse. BC << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A <A[at]aol.net> wrote: - quote - > My mother's house has appreciated about $600K since they
Yes, she does, but in exchange she gets a 50% stepup in> bought it in 1972. My mother is 85. Her spouse is quite ill > and could die in 12-18 months. > If they sold the house now - they'd get the $500K cap gains > break. They file jointly. What would happen if he dies > while they still owned the house. Does she lose his $250K ? "cost basis" in the asset. If they live in a Community Property state, the the basis probably gets "stepped up" 100%, or to the FMV on the date of his death. - quote - > What if he died in Feb 2005 and she sold the house in Nov
Basically the same result in either case. See the above> 2005 - same tax year. > What if he died in Nov 2004 and she sells the house in June > 2005 - different tax years. explanation of basis step up. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A wrote: - quote - > My mother's house has appreciated about $600K since they
She can file a joint return for the year of death.> bought it in 1972. My mother is 85. Her spouse is quite ill > and could die in 12-18 months. > If they sold the house now - they'd get the $500K cap gains > break. They file jointly. What would happen if he dies > while they still owned the house. Does she lose his $250K ? > What if he died in Feb 2005 and she sold the house in Nov > 2005 - same tax year. Therefore, the $500K exclusion would be available on that return. In addition, the cost basis of the house would change because of the death. See answer below as to how this works. - quote - > What if he died in Nov 2004 and she sells the house in June
She can't file a joint return in 2005 and therefore she> 2005 - different tax years. would only be entitled to a $250K exclusion. BUT: her cost basis in the home has changed. Assuming they live in a separate property state, his half ownership interest would be stepped up to fair market value (FMV) of the home as of the date of death. This would mitigate part if not all of any gain as the original cost is not used. If a community property state: both spouse's interests are stepped up to FMV as of date of death. So, unless the home appreciated dramatically from the date of death to the sales date, there would not be any gain that exceeded $250K. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My mother's house has appreciated about $600K since they bought it in 1972. My mother is 85. Her spouse is quite ill and could die in 12-18 months. If they sold the house now - they'd get the $500K cap gains break. They file jointly. What would happen if he dies while they still owned the house. Does she lose his $250K ? What if he died in Feb 2005 and she sold the house in Nov 2005 - same tax year. What if he died in Nov 2004 and she sells the house in June 2005 - different tax years. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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