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| TonyB wrote: - quote - > Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote:
....> > TonyB wrote: > > > The award trip was paid for by the employer, and the 1099 > > > came from the employer; it did not come from a third party. > > > > > What are the ramifications of it being reported on a > > > 1099-misc instead of a W2? - quote - > So, are there any incentives for reporting this type of
I would say, not if you want to continue working for them.> illegal behavior? In some cases, reporting tax evasion to the IRS can get you 10% of the tax collected, but, for this PARTICULAR evasion, the company would have to become aware that it was YOUR 1099 that was involved, even if they weren't formally aware that you were complaining. Retaliatory termination is also illegal, but difficult to prove. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote: - quote - > TonyB wrote:
So, are there any incentives for reporting this type of> > The award trip was paid for by the employer, and the 1099 > > came from the employer; it did not come from a third party. > > > What are the ramifications of it being reported on a > > 1099-misc instead of a W2? Is it better for us that it was > > reported on a 1099-misc instead of her W2? Is this employer > > avoiding paying taxes by doing it this way? (If so isn't > > this illegal?!?) > Consequences: The employer avoids reporting it on their > employment tax returns. This probably doesn't make MUCH > difference, as most of the employment tax tops off at a > wage base of $7,000 per employee per year, but it might > reduce your unemployment benefits. If you accept their > allocation, you have to file a 1040 Schedule C and pay > self-employment taxes on the amount. > As for FICA and income taxes, it's essentially equivalent > of them properly paying you $1900*92.35%, except there's > no income tax withholding. (And it IS illegal.) illegal behavior? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| TonyB wrote: - quote - > The award trip was paid for by the employer, and the 1099
Consequences: The employer avoids reporting it on their> came from the employer; it did not come from a third party. > What are the ramifications of it being reported on a > 1099-misc instead of a W2? Is it better for us that it was > reported on a 1099-misc instead of her W2? Is this employer > avoiding paying taxes by doing it this way? (If so isn't > this illegal?!?) employment tax returns. This probably doesn't make MUCH difference, as most of the employment tax tops off at a wage base of $7,000 per employee per year, but it might reduce your unemployment benefits. If you accept their allocation, you have to file a 1040 Schedule C and pay self-employment taxes on the amount. As for FICA and income taxes, it's essentially equivalent of them properly paying you $1900*92.35%, except there's no income tax withholding. (And it IS illegal.) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote: - quote - > TonyB wrote:
The award trip was paid for by the employer, and the 1099> > My wife (along with everyone in her office) received a > > vacation for meeting a sales goal for the year. The employer > > gave her (and everyone else) a 1099-misc for the amount of > > the vacation (~$1900). > > > From Page 3, under the section titled 'Bonuses and Awards' > > at the following link, it looks like it should be on her W2. > > http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p17.pdf > > > Should this amount have been reported on her W2, or should > > it indeed go on a 1099-misc? > W2. came from the employer; it did not come from a third party. What are the ramifications of it being reported on a 1099-misc instead of a W2? Is it better for us that it was reported on a 1099-misc instead of her W2? Is this employer avoiding paying taxes by doing it this way? (If so isn't this illegal?!?) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| TonyB wrote: - quote - > My wife (along with everyone in her office) received a
W2.> vacation for meeting a sales goal for the year. The employer > gave her (and everyone else) a 1099-misc for the amount of > the vacation (~$1900). > From Page 3, under the section titled 'Bonuses and Awards' > at the following link, it looks like it should be on her W2. > http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p17.pdf > Should this amount have been reported on her W2, or should > it indeed go on a 1099-misc? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| TonyB <TonyB2987[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > My wife (along with everyone in her office) received a
If paid by her employer it would be wages but if paid by --> vacation for meeting a sales goal for the year. The employer > gave her (and everyone else) a 1099-misc for the amount of > the vacation (~$1900). > From Page 3, under the section titled 'Bonuses and Awards' > at the following link, it looks like it should be on her W2. > http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p17.pdf > Should this amount have been reported on her W2, or should > it indeed go on a 1099-misc? say the manufacturer, it would be prizes & awards. Example: Employer is John's Big Car Sales, and your wife met some nice sales figure which qualified her to a bonus from GM. That's a prize/award from the manufacturer, which might have been funneled via the employer. It is taxable income but no self-employment income is due. Line 21 as prizes & awards, Mike Wing pointed me to IRS Pub 3204 a few weeks ago. The auto industry calls this payment a SPIFF. But I've seen spiffs in other industries. For example, a furniture salesman who gets an award from a matress manufacturer. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| TonyB wrote: - quote - > My wife (along with everyone in her office) received a
Yes indeedy, it should have been on the W-2. But since it> vacation for meeting a sales goal for the year. The employer > gave her (and everyone else) a 1099-misc for the amount of > the vacation (~$1900). > From Page 3, under the section titled 'Bonuses and Awards' > at the following link, it looks like it should be on her W2. > http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p17.pdf > Should this amount have been reported on her W2, or should > it indeed go on a 1099-misc? wasn't, don't worry about it, just report it on line 21. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My wife (along with everyone in her office) received a vacation for meeting a sales goal for the year. The employer gave her (and everyone else) a 1099-misc for the amount of the vacation (~$1900). From Page 3, under the section titled 'Bonuses and Awards' at the following link, it looks like it should be on her W2. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p17.pdf Should this amount have been reported on her W2, or should it indeed go on a 1099-misc? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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