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Old 02-05-2004, 04:09 AM
A.G. Kalman
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A.G. Kalman wrote:
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> William Brenner wrote:
> > A G Kalman wrote, in part:


> > > "I can't figure out why the insurance company
> > > put those words on the 1099-R. If there was
> > > some part that could be treated as capital
> > > gain they would know it and report it on the
> > > form."


> > As I read box 3, all of the "Taxable amount" in Box 2a is
> > (as stated in box 3) "eligible for capital gain election".
> > > My questions remain:

> > How do I report this on my tax return?
> > Which capital gains rate applies?


> Assuming you owned the policy more than one year and
> assuming the check was delayed for 7 months, you have a post
> 5/5/03 long-term capital gain (5% or 15%).


That should have said "check wasn't delayed".

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Old 02-04-2004, 02:54 AM
A.G. Kalman
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Default Re: Reporting Insurance Policy Capital Gain?

William Brenner wrote:
- quote -

> A G Kalman wrote, in part:

> > "I can't figure out why the insurance company
> > put those words on the 1099-R. If there was
> > some part that could be treated as capital
> > gain they would know it and report it on the
> > form."


> As I read box 3, all of the "Taxable amount" in Box 2a is
> (as stated in box 3) "eligible for capital gain election".
> My questions remain:
> How do I report this on my tax return?
> Which capital gains rate applies?


Assuming you owned the policy more than one year and
assuming the check was delayed for 7 months, you have a post
5/5/03 long-term capital gain (5% or 15%).

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Alan
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Old 02-03-2004, 12:52 AM
William Brenner
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Default Re: Reporting Insurance Policy Capital Gain?

A G Kalman wrote, in part:

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> "I can't figure out why the insurance company
> put those words on the 1099-R. If there was
> some part that could be treated as capital
> gain they would know it and report it on the
> form."


As I read box 3, all of the "Taxable amount" in Box 2a is
(as stated in box 3) "eligible for capital gain election".

My questions remain:
How do I report this on my tax return?
Which capital gains rate applies?

Thank you for your help.

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Old 02-01-2004, 11:45 PM
A.G. Kalman
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Default Re: Reporting Insurance Policy Capital Gain?

A.G. Kalman wrote:
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> Arthur Kamlet wrote:
> > William Brenner <wjbjr[at]webtv.net> wrote:


> > > In December, I received a check from a life insurance
> > > company upon the maturation of an endowment policy purchased
> > > many years ago.
> > > > > If it matters, I was the owner of the policy and premiums
> > > were paid by policy dividends for many years.
> > > > > A 1099-R shows the "Taxable amount" in box 2a; and states in
> > > box 3: "Amount in Box 2a eligible for capital gain
> > > election".
> > > > > The questions are:
> > > 1. Does this qualify for the cut rate long term capital
> > > gains tax?
> > > 2. How does one enter this on Schedule D? (Or does it
> > > go elsewhere?)


> > If you were born before January 2 1936 and took a lump-sum
> > distribution and elected lump-sum distribution tax treatment
> > then this box comes into play.


> The 10 year averaging for lump-sum distributions applies to
> qualified employer plans. An endowment contract that
> matures would fail that test.
> I can't figure out why the insurance company put those words
> on the 1099-R. If there was some part that could be treated
> as capital gain they would know it and report it on the
> form.


The more I think about this the more I think it is no
different than the disposition of any other investment
property. I think it is reasonable to treat it as such on
the Schedule D Part II. I would use the date you first
bought the contract as the purchase date and the date of the
payment as the sales date. I would describe it as
Disposition of Endowment Contract.

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Old 01-30-2004, 08:38 PM
A.G. Kalman
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Default Re: Reporting Insurance Policy Capital Gain?

Arthur Kamlet wrote:
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> William Brenner <wjbjr[at]webtv.net> wrote:

> > In December, I received a check from a life insurance
> > company upon the maturation of an endowment policy purchased
> > many years ago.
> > > If it matters, I was the owner of the policy and premiums

> > were paid by policy dividends for many years.
> > > A 1099-R shows the "Taxable amount" in box 2a; and states in

> > box 3: "Amount in Box 2a eligible for capital gain
> > election".
> > > The questions are:

> > 1. Does this qualify for the cut rate long term capital
> > gains tax?
> > 2. How does one enter this on Schedule D? (Or does it
> > go elsewhere?)


> If you were born before January 2 1936 and took a lump-sum
> distribution and elected lump-sum distribution tax treatment
> then this box comes into play.


The 10 year averaging for lump-sum distributions applies to
qualified employer plans. An endowment contract that
matures would fail that test.

I can't figure out why the insurance company put those words
on the 1099-R. If there was some part that could be treated
as capital gain they would know it and report it on the
form.

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Old 01-28-2004, 09:55 PM
Arthur Kamlet
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Default Re: Reporting Insurance Policy Capital Gain?

William Brenner <wjbjr[at]webtv.net> wrote:

- quote -

> In December, I received a check from a life insurance
> company upon the maturation of an endowment policy purchased
> many years ago.
> If it matters, I was the owner of the policy and premiums
> were paid by policy dividends for many years.
> A 1099-R shows the "Taxable amount" in box 2a; and states in
> box 3: "Amount in Box 2a eligible for capital gain
> election".
> The questions are:
> 1. Does this qualify for the cut rate long term capital
> gains tax?
> 2. How does one enter this on Schedule D? (Or does it
> go elsewhere?)


If you were born before January 2 1936 and took a lump-sum
distribution and elected lump-sum distribution tax treatment
then this box comes into play.

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Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 01-27-2004, 10:52 PM
William Brenner
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Default Reporting Insurance Policy Capital Gain?

In December, I received a check from a life insurance
company upon the maturation of an endowment policy purchased
many years ago.

If it matters, I was the owner of the policy and premiums
were paid by policy dividends for many years.

A 1099-R shows the "Taxable amount" in box 2a; and states in
box 3: "Amount in Box 2a eligible for capital gain
election".

The questions are:
1. Does this qualify for the cut rate long term capital
gains tax?
2. How does one enter this on Schedule D? (Or does it
go elsewhere?)

Thank you for your help.

Bill

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