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Old 02-03-2004, 12:32 AM
HW \Skip\ Weldon
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D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:

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> No. Earnings will be non-taxable too.

Thanks to all who responded. So the Roth will continue to
treated as a Roth (tax-free) to the granddaughter, only she
must follow IRA rules as to when and how she receives the
money.

-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

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Old 01-28-2004, 10:35 PM
D. Stussy
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L. T. Portella wrote:
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> "HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Grandmother sets up Roth for self, naming granddaughter as
> > beneficiary. At grandmother's death, granddaughter can take
> > lump-sum withdrawal income tax free.
> > > Alternatively, granddaughter could elect lifetime

> > withdrawals using granddaughter's life expectancy. That
> > leaves the bulk of the account to grow tax-deferred.
> > > With that lifetime payout election granddaughter's basis

> > would be the value of the account as of the grandmother's
> > passing, meaning part of each payment would be principal,
> > part taxable interest. Correct?


> If you receive an authoritative reply please let me know. I
> have asked the same question several times and the general
> consensus is that all the payments received by the
> granddaughter are principal and NOT taxable.


No. Earnings will be non-taxable too.

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Old 01-27-2004, 10:52 PM
L. T. Portella
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"HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Grandmother sets up Roth for self, naming granddaughter as
> beneficiary. At grandmother's death, granddaughter can take
> lump-sum withdrawal income tax free.
> Alternatively, granddaughter could elect lifetime
> withdrawals using granddaughter's life expectancy. That
> leaves the bulk of the account to grow tax-deferred.
> With that lifetime payout election granddaughter's basis
> would be the value of the account as of the grandmother's
> passing, meaning part of each payment would be principal,
> part taxable interest. Correct?


If you receive an authoritative reply please let me know. I
have asked the same question several times and the general
consensus is that all the payments received by the
granddaughter are principal and NOT taxable.

L. T. Portella

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Old 01-27-2004, 10:13 PM
D. Stussy
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HW "Skip" Weldon wrote:

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> Grandmother sets up Roth for self, naming granddaughter as
> beneficiary. At grandmother's death, granddaughter can take
> lump-sum withdrawal income tax free.
> Alternatively, granddaughter could elect lifetime
> withdrawals using granddaughter's life expectancy. That
> leaves the bulk of the account to grow tax-deferred.
> With that lifetime payout election granddaughter's basis
> would be the value of the account as of the grandmother's
> passing, meaning part of each payment would be principal,
> part taxable interest. Correct?


Why does that matter (principal vs. interest)? You said
ROTH-IRA. It's also an inherited account, so the tracking
of contributions and conversions withdrawn also isn't
needed.

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Old 01-27-2004, 09:57 AM
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"HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Grandmother sets up Roth for self, naming granddaughter as
> beneficiary. At grandmother's death, granddaughter can take
> lump-sum withdrawal income tax free.
> Alternatively, granddaughter could elect lifetime
> withdrawals using granddaughter's life expectancy. That
> leaves the bulk of the account to grow tax-deferred.


No, the account contines to grow TAX-FREE, not tax deferred.

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> With that lifetime payout election granddaughter's basis
> would be the value of the account as of the grandmother's
> passing, meaning part of each payment would be principal,
> part taxable interest. Correct?


Not correct. As long as the grandmother's Roth IRA had been
open for at least five years prior to her death, the
beneficiary gets completely TAX-FREE distributions over her
lifetime. There is no "taxable interest" to consider.

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Old 01-27-2004, 08:21 AM
A.G. Kalman
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HW "Skip" Weldon wrote:

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> Grandmother sets up Roth for self, naming granddaughter as
> beneficiary. At grandmother's death, granddaughter can take
> lump-sum withdrawal income tax free.


As long as the grandmother did not specify that the annuity
method was to be used by the beneficiary, then a lump sum
withdrawn within the required 5 calendar year period would be
allowed. The distribution would be tax-free if it would have
been tax-free to the grandmother (the Roth IRA normal 5 year
period has elapsed).

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> Alternatively, granddaughter could elect lifetime
> withdrawals using granddaughter's life expectancy. That
> leaves the bulk of the account to grow tax-deferred.
> With that lifetime payout election granddaughter's basis
> would be the value of the account as of the grandmother's
> passing, meaning part of each payment would be principal,
> part taxable interest. Correct?


Again for clarity, she can only use the annuity method if
that was the method specified or no specific method was
identified in the plan document. The beneficiary must take
the first annuity payment no later than the end of the
calendar year after the year of death. As long as the
annuity distribution is a qualified distribution it is
tax-free.

Take a look at Kaye Thomas' site. He does a great job in
wxplaining all of this. The inherited Roth IRA stuff is at:
http://www.fairmark.com/rothira/inherit.htm

--
Alan
http://taxtopics.net

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Old 01-25-2004, 10:12 PM
HW \Skip\ Weldon
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Default Roth IRA question

Grandmother sets up Roth for self, naming granddaughter as
beneficiary. At grandmother's death, granddaughter can take
lump-sum withdrawal income tax free.

Alternatively, granddaughter could elect lifetime
withdrawals using granddaughter's life expectancy. That
leaves the bulk of the account to grow tax-deferred.

With that lifetime payout election granddaughter's basis
would be the value of the account as of the grandmother's
passing, meaning part of each payment would be principal,
part taxable interest. Correct?

-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

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