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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > "A.G. Kalman" wrote:
I knew there must be some reason I live in CA.> > Arthur L. Rubin wrote: > > > "A.G. Kalman" wrote: > > > > Illinois kind of works the same way.... If you file jointly, > > > > then she will be considered an Illinois resident for the > > > > entire year thereby making her full year income subject to > > > > Illinois tax. > > > THAT, I question. Doesn't IL have part-year joint returns? > > Yes they do and if they file separately in IL she would be a > > part-year resident. To file a joint return, she would have > > to consider herself a full year resident. > In California, that would be inaccurate. He would be a > full-year resident, and she would be part-year, and they > would file jointly on the 540NR. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Dave wrote: - quote - > "A.G. Kalman" <agk202[at]netscape.net> wrote:
The foreign earned income exclusion is available to US> > Dave wrote: > > > My wife and I were married last year and she moved to the US > > > as a permanent resident on a spousal visa in March 2003. > > > She had a small income in her home country in Jan 2003 > > > before moving to the US. As I understand it, any income she > > > had in 2003 prior to becoming a US PR is not taxable by the > > > US. A question is, must we still report this income to the > > > IRS somehow (obviously she won't get any W-2's from this > > > employment, since employers in her home country do not send > > > out W-2's). She gained employment in the US after moving > > > here which is obviously subject to US income tax. Our plan > > > is to file jointly. Is there anything we should be aware > > > of? > > > > > In addition, we live in Illinois. As far as Illinois taxes > > > go, must we somehow complete a part year resident form for > > > her or does this just apply for moving from somewhere in the > > > US to Illinois? > > Your wife is a dual-status alien for 2003. If you want to > > file a joint return, you both must make an election to treat > > her as a resident alien of the US for the whole year. (See > > IRS Pub 519 for how to make the election.) You both could > > then file jointly and you must include your world-wide > > income for the entire year on your tax return. You may use > > any reasonable method that does not distort income to > > convert her income from foreign currency to dollars. If she > > paid any foreign income tax on that income, you may be > > eligible for the foreign tax credit. See IRS Pub 514 or the > > instructions for Form 1116. > > > Illinois kind of works the same way. She would be a > > part-year resident of Illinois. If you file a joint federal > > return you may opt to file married separate returns for Il > > or you may file a joint return for IL. If you file jointly, > > then she will be considered an Illinois resident for the > > entire year thereby making her full year income subject to > > Illinois tax. > > > If the amounts in question were rather small, it is highly > > probable that a joint return across the board would provide > > the best outcome for you. > Thanks very much for the response and pointers. Does the > $80,000 foreign earned income eclusion only apply if one is > living outside the US? If not, could we use this to exclude > her income in her home country if we file jointly (and > therefore have to count her income for the entire year, even > before she became a US resident)? citizens and resident aliens of the US who are able to meet the eligibility requirements for the exclusion. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "A.G. Kalman" wrote: - quote - > Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
In California, that would be inaccurate. He would be a> > "A.G. Kalman" wrote: > > > Illinois kind of works the same way.... If you file jointly, > > > then she will be considered an Illinois resident for the > > > entire year thereby making her full year income subject to > > > Illinois tax. > > THAT, I question. Doesn't IL have part-year joint returns? > Yes they do and if they file separately in IL she would be a > part-year resident. To file a joint return, she would have > to consider herself a full year resident. full-year resident, and she would be part-year, and they would file jointly on the 540NR. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Dave wrote: - quote - > Thanks very much for the response and pointers. Does the
Yes -- but she was living outside the US before March 2003.> $80,000 foreign earned income eclusion only apply if one is > living outside the US? If she can qualify for the year ending (say) March 1, 2003, you could claim 60/365 of the $80,000 exclusion against income earned outside the US from January 1, 2003 thru March 1, 2003. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "A.G. Kalman" <agk202[at]netscape.net> wrote: - quote - > Dave wrote:
Thanks very much for the response and pointers. Does the> > My wife and I were married last year and she moved to the US > > as a permanent resident on a spousal visa in March 2003. > > She had a small income in her home country in Jan 2003 > > before moving to the US. As I understand it, any income she > > had in 2003 prior to becoming a US PR is not taxable by the > > US. A question is, must we still report this income to the > > IRS somehow (obviously she won't get any W-2's from this > > employment, since employers in her home country do not send > > out W-2's). She gained employment in the US after moving > > here which is obviously subject to US income tax. Our plan > > is to file jointly. Is there anything we should be aware > > of? > > > In addition, we live in Illinois. As far as Illinois taxes > > go, must we somehow complete a part year resident form for > > her or does this just apply for moving from somewhere in the > > US to Illinois? > Your wife is a dual-status alien for 2003. If you want to > file a joint return, you both must make an election to treat > her as a resident alien of the US for the whole year. (See > IRS Pub 519 for how to make the election.) You both could > then file jointly and you must include your world-wide > income for the entire year on your tax return. You may use > any reasonable method that does not distort income to > convert her income from foreign currency to dollars. If she > paid any foreign income tax on that income, you may be > eligible for the foreign tax credit. See IRS Pub 514 or the > instructions for Form 1116. > Illinois kind of works the same way. She would be a > part-year resident of Illinois. If you file a joint federal > return you may opt to file married separate returns for Il > or you may file a joint return for IL. If you file jointly, > then she will be considered an Illinois resident for the > entire year thereby making her full year income subject to > Illinois tax. > If the amounts in question were rather small, it is highly > probable that a joint return across the board would provide > the best outcome for you. $80,000 foreign earned income eclusion only apply if one is living outside the US? If not, could we use this to exclude her income in her home country if we file jointly (and therefore have to count her income for the entire year, even before she became a US resident)? Dave << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > "A.G. Kalman" wrote:
Yes they do and if they file separately in IL she would be a> > Illinois kind of works the same way.... If you file jointly, > > then she will be considered an Illinois resident for the > > entire year thereby making her full year income subject to > > Illinois tax. > THAT, I question. Doesn't IL have part-year joint returns? part-year resident. To file a joint return, she would have to consider herself a full year resident. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "A.G. Kalman" wrote: - quote - > Illinois kind of works the same way.... If you file jointly,
THAT, I question. Doesn't IL have part-year joint returns?> then she will be considered an Illinois resident for the > entire year thereby making her full year income subject to > Illinois tax. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Dave wrote: - quote - > In addition, we live in Illinois. As far as Illinois taxes
I don't know about IL, but CA and AZ don't care where in the> go, must we somehow complete a part year resident form for > her or does this just apply for moving from somewhere in the > US to Illinois? world you moved from, as long as it isn't in-state. At least for CA, you've have to report her foreign income as non-resident income (after converting it to US$), regardless of any part-year non-resident status for the Federal return. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Dave wrote: - quote - > My wife and I were married last year and she moved to the US
Your wife is a dual-status alien for 2003. If you want to> as a permanent resident on a spousal visa in March 2003. > She had a small income in her home country in Jan 2003 > before moving to the US. As I understand it, any income she > had in 2003 prior to becoming a US PR is not taxable by the > US. A question is, must we still report this income to the > IRS somehow (obviously she won't get any W-2's from this > employment, since employers in her home country do not send > out W-2's). She gained employment in the US after moving > here which is obviously subject to US income tax. Our plan > is to file jointly. Is there anything we should be aware > of? > In addition, we live in Illinois. As far as Illinois taxes > go, must we somehow complete a part year resident form for > her or does this just apply for moving from somewhere in the > US to Illinois? file a joint return, you both must make an election to treat her as a resident alien of the US for the whole year. (See IRS Pub 519 for how to make the election.) You both could then file jointly and you must include your world-wide income for the entire year on your tax return. You may use any reasonable method that does not distort income to convert her income from foreign currency to dollars. If she paid any foreign income tax on that income, you may be eligible for the foreign tax credit. See IRS Pub 514 or the instructions for Form 1116. Illinois kind of works the same way. She would be a part-year resident of Illinois. If you file a joint federal return you may opt to file married separate returns for Il or you may file a joint return for IL. If you file jointly, then she will be considered an Illinois resident for the entire year thereby making her full year income subject to Illinois tax. If the amounts in question were rather small, it is highly probable that a joint return across the board would provide the best outcome for you. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My wife and I were married last year and she moved to the US as a permanent resident on a spousal visa in March 2003. She had a small income in her home country in Jan 2003 before moving to the US. As I understand it, any income she had in 2003 prior to becoming a US PR is not taxable by the US. A question is, must we still report this income to the IRS somehow (obviously she won't get any W-2's from this employment, since employers in her home country do not send out W-2's). She gained employment in the US after moving here which is obviously subject to US income tax. Our plan is to file jointly. Is there anything we should be aware of? In addition, we live in Illinois. As far as Illinois taxes go, must we somehow complete a part year resident form for her or does this just apply for moving from somewhere in the US to Illinois? Thanks << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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