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| Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > borges wrote: > > I have a house that I've lived in for the last 3 years. It > > is in terrible condition and would not bring much money if I > > just sold it. I'm single and wanting to sell it and want to > > minimize the capital gains taxes. > > > If I sell it as is...whatever gains I make up to 250K are > > tax free. > > > If I say spend say 50K renovating it, then I can add 50K to > > the "cost" of the house and still have whatever I make above > > that up to 250K be tax free, right? > > > Now for the "idiot's limit" question. Suppose I demolish > > the house and build another house in the same spot for say > > 300K. I can then add 300K to the "cost" of the house and > > still have cap. gains exclusion above that up to 250K, > > right? wrong? > > > It just seems to me that there really isn't any legal way to > > identify whether a demolish/rebuild or a major renovation > > has occured on a house. > The only part of your query that needs answering is about > the demolition. Your house, personal residence, whatever, > is personal use property. And when voluntarily demolish > it, there is no deductible loss, nor can that cost be added > to any other basis. Dear Mr. Lunsford, Thank you so much for your reply. I suppose I need to talk this over with a CPA or real estate attorney before embarking on this. In the municipality that I live in, there basically is no difference in the legal/permit procedures for demolishing a house and rebuilding it and renovating it. For example if you demolished all of the house except for a garage wall...is it a demolition? or a major renovation? It seems that you are saying that if it is a renovation, I get the capital gains benefits...if its a demolition, I don't? thanks for reading this!! Jim << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > borges wrote:
There is no deductible loss on demolition, but you can add> > I have a house that I've lived in for the last 3 years. It > > is in terrible condition and would not bring much money if I > > just sold it. I'm single and wanting to sell it and want to > > minimize the capital gains taxes. > > > If I sell it as is...whatever gains I make up to 250K are > > tax free. > > > If I say spend say 50K renovating it, then I can add 50K to > > the "cost" of the house and still have whatever I make above > > that up to 250K be tax free, right? > > > Now for the "idiot's limit" question. Suppose I demolish > > the house and build another house in the same spot for say > > 300K. I can then add 300K to the "cost" of the house and > > still have cap. gains exclusion above that up to 250K, > > right? wrong? > > > It just seems to me that there really isn't any legal way to > > identify whether a demolish/rebuild or a major renovation > > has occured on a house. > The only part of your query that needs answering is about > the demolition. Your house, personal residence, whatever, > is personal use property. And when voluntarily demolish > it, there is no deductible loss, nor can that cost be added > to any other basis. the demolition and renovation costs onto your original purchase basis when you sell the renovated or new house. Whether the property still qualifies for the exclusion is a good question I've wondered about myself, so I did the research. The exclusion applies to property owned by you and used as your principal residence for at least two years out of the last five years. Property is not well defined, but generally must include sleeping quarters and toilet facilities. If you renovate the property prior to sale, I believe it would still qualify. If you gut it and renovate it substantially, I believe it would probably still qualify. If you take it down to the foundation and rebuild it, it might still qualify (This is the grey area where I will not say for certain). It probably won't still qualify if you completely demolish the old house and build a new house. This situation is getting too close to an old revenue ruling that denied exclusion where the taxpayer sold the property upon which his home was located and then moved his home to a new location. To be safe, you should live in the new house for two years. Or, sell the property first, then do the tear down and rebuild (don't know how that could be structured). How to identify the amount of reconstruction done may be difficult, but I would recommend the taxpayer maintain proof that some portion of his original principal residence remains in the newly renovated home. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| borges wrote: - quote - > I have a house that I've lived in for the last 3 years. It
The only part of your query that needs answering is about> is in terrible condition and would not bring much money if I > just sold it. I'm single and wanting to sell it and want to > minimize the capital gains taxes. > If I sell it as is...whatever gains I make up to 250K are > tax free. > If I say spend say 50K renovating it, then I can add 50K to > the "cost" of the house and still have whatever I make above > that up to 250K be tax free, right? > Now for the "idiot's limit" question. Suppose I demolish > the house and build another house in the same spot for say > 300K. I can then add 300K to the "cost" of the house and > still have cap. gains exclusion above that up to 250K, > right? wrong? > It just seems to me that there really isn't any legal way to > identify whether a demolish/rebuild or a major renovation > has occured on a house. the demolition. Your house, personal residence, whatever, is personal use property. And when voluntarily demolish it, there is no deductible loss, nor can that cost be added to any other basis. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I have a house that I've lived in for the last 3 years. It is in terrible condition and would not bring much money if I just sold it. I'm single and wanting to sell it and want to minimize the capital gains taxes. If I sell it as is...whatever gains I make up to 250K are tax free. If I say spend say 50K renovating it, then I can add 50K to the "cost" of the house and still have whatever I make above that up to 250K be tax free, right? Now for the "idiot's limit" question. Suppose I demolish the house and build another house in the same spot for say 300K. I can then add 300K to the "cost" of the house and still have cap. gains exclusion above that up to 250K, right? wrong? It just seems to me that there really isn't any legal way to identify whether a demolish/rebuild or a major renovation has occured on a house. Anyway, thanks for your thoughts on this beforehand. Sincerely, Jim << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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