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| msmap wrote: - quote - > I have an estate tax bill of $240,000+. When we deduct the
Note that if there is any other IRD item, then not all of> IRA's the estate tax bill goes to $0. So my question is, > with income with respect to decedent saying I can take the > difference between the two values as a deduction against my > own personal income, how long / how much can I deduct each > year? My personal tax bill is usually only around $20K per > year so would I get a $220,000 refund in one year or just > not have to pay any taxes until the deduction is used up? the estate tax will be attributable to the IRA even if the removal of just the IRA causes the estate tax to recompute as zero. Assuming that the only IRD item is the IRA (otherwise, you have to prorate to find the amount attributable to the IRA and use that amount instead of the entire estate tax amount), you will have a itemized deduction on schedule A NOT subject to the 2%-of-AGI floor for the amount of the estate tax (on the IRA) that bears the relationship of the amount withdrawn from the IRA to the amount listed on the estate tax return as the value of the IRA (less any post-tax basis it might have). Note that a surviving spouse in general won't get an estate tax deduction (because of the estate marital deduction), but it is possible (with enough assets passing to others). << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "msmap" <msmap[at]houston.rr.com> wrote: - quote - > I have an estate tax bill of $240,000+. When we deduct the
I think you are confused. What you are talking about is a> IRA's the estate tax bill goes to $0. So my question is, > with income with respect to decedent saying I can take the > difference between the two values as a deduction against my > own personal income, how long / how much can I deduct each > year? My personal tax bill is usually only around $20K per > year so would I get a $220,000 refund in one year or just > not have to pay any taxes until the deduction is used up? deduction not a credit. The deduction applies to only the amount of *federal* estate tax paid attributable to the inclusion of IRD in the estate tax base for the decedent's estate. See IRC 691(c) and Regs. §1.691(c)-1 for the details. Drew Edmundson, CPA (NC) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I have an estate tax bill of $240,000+. When we deduct the
The deduction for federal estate tax attributable to IRD is> IRA's the estate tax bill goes to $0. So my question is, > with income with respect to decedent saying I can take the > difference between the two values as a deduction against my > own personal income, how long / how much can I deduct each > year? My personal tax bill is usually only around $20K per > year so would I get a $220,000 refund in one year or just > not have to pay any taxes until the deduction is used up? > All help with this subject is greatly appreciated. an itemized deduction on Schedule A, not an offset against other income. And you would only claim that deduction as you received the income that generated the tax in the first place. You said you have IRA's - if you are not taking the entire IRA distribution in one year, you would not be entitled to claim the entire federal estate tax in one year - it must be apprortioned. So if you are taking the IRA distributions over your life expectancy and that life expectancy is 20 years, you would have 1/20 of the $240,000 each year as an itemized deduction. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I have an estate tax bill of $240,000+. When we deduct the IRA's the estate tax bill goes to $0. So my question is, with income with respect to decedent saying I can take the difference between the two values as a deduction against my own personal income, how long / how much can I deduct each year? My personal tax bill is usually only around $20K per year so would I get a $220,000 refund in one year or just not have to pay any taxes until the deduction is used up? All help with this subject is greatly appreciated. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |