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| W. Carlsen wrote: - quote - > Is there a minimum dollar value on items that must be
As was noted, under the capitalization rules the answer> depreciated? would be no. Now, for assets acquired by purchase that are also Section 179 qualified there's always the use of that provision to expense assets. However, you do have to specifically identify the property on your return and if you don't do so the IRS can refuse to allow you to use the fact you "could have used" Section 179 if they decide it should have been capitalized. As well, it doesn't help if you hit the net income limitation and won't work for certain property (though most often that property isn't what you are talking about <grin> ). There's also a second out--if you read the case that will be cited to *prove* there's no dollar limit on capitalization (Alacare), you'll note that if you consistently follow a policy of expensing low cost items and that doing so does not materially misstate your income, then not only *may* you do this but, arguably, once you've established the policy you are *required* to do this until the IRS gives you permission not to--it's a method of accounting under Section 446 and methods can only be changed with IRS permission, even if the method is not a permitted one. Conversely, the IRS can only require a change of method if the method materially misstates income. In Alacare's case, the problem was that, while each asset was clearly not material to Alacare's income, the cumulative effect of the huge number of such items that Alacare acquired each year *did* have a material impact. The court spends most of the opinion analyzing exactly how large that impact would be. The practical effect is that if the amount is large enough that you would spent much time or effort disputing a change based on this theory in exam, that itself might prove it's a material misstatement (after all, if it was immaterial you really wouldn't care about the minor adjustment <grin> ). Reality is that everyone recognizes there are amounts that are too small to capitalize. If you go to my firm's storeroom, you'll find documents going back to 1965 that have staples in them. Those staples and the papers that make up the documents were purchased in 1965 and clearly have been "long lived" <grin> . Nevertheless, no one suggests that each box of staples or paper we buy should be capitalized as a fixed asset (supply is a different issue, but I digress <grin> ), depreciated and then each one tracked to determine when it has been disposed and can be taken as a 1231 loss. Finally, a number of court cases have held that capitalization is generally not required if the asset with one with a very short life (one year or less, generally). Note that the staples don't pass this test <grin> . -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > As a sole-proprietor, I understand having to depreciate
There is not minimum dollar value on depreciable items.> items I originally purchased for personal use, later > converting them for business. However; do I still have to > depreciate items in this category that won't last a year or > have such a small fair market value? (for example $50.00 or > less) Can these items be expensed rather than depreciated? > Is there a minimum dollar value on items that must be > depreciated? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| As a sole-proprietor, I understand having to depreciate items I originally purchased for personal use, later converting them for business. However; do I still have to depreciate items in this category that won't last a year or have such a small fair market value? (for example $50.00 or less) Can these items be expensed rather than depreciated? Is there a minimum dollar value on items that must be depreciated? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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