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| cdmt wrote: - quote - > Grandfather generously bought my wife and my home completely
Technically, yes, because it appears that you entered into> with the intension of giving us a low-interest family loan. > He charged us the Applicable Federal Rate minimum on the > interest. (At the time was 4.6%) We had the contract > legally drawn up and got our amortization schedule. We > started paying interest on the home since May of 2003. Now > I understand that this interest is deductible as it sits, > but it got complicated. > Now here, at the beginning of 2004, grandfather decided that > he felt bad for charging us interest and gave us a check in > the amount of the interest we paid him in 2003. He said > that it was a gift, and that he was going to pay taxes from > the "foregone" interest that he technically earned from us. > So I guess this basically means he is going to pay income > tax on the interest that he earned from us. > The thing I'm wondering is, if we should still deduct the > interest. My mind is telling me yes, because he is > reporting the amount of interest we paid him as an income on > his taxes - and that he simply gave us a gift. an arm's length transaction and you were liable for it (and paid it). Any "refund" of it did not occur in the same tax year. However, if you left yourself the ability to amend the agreement back to the starting date (if done within the first year or other reasonable period), then this action might be such an amendment instead of an overt gift. That case would yield no deduction for you. - quote - > Question 2
If you are not an accrual basis taxpayer (most individuals> Since our loan is a family loan, we get billed for the full > amount of property taxes annually. I understand that > property taxes (like for cities, police, schools and > counties) are deductible. My tax bills from the city and > county say that the bills are due by Jan 31, 2004. I am > going to pay them tomorrow which will be Jan 14, 2004. Am I > able to deduct these 2003 property taxes from my 2003 taxes > even though I paid them in Jan 2004? are cash basis), you paid it in 2004 -> 2004 is when you deduct it. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| cdmt <cdmt[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > Grandfather generously bought my wife and my home completely
Assuming the gift is a true gift, from what you told us, you> with the intension of giving us a low-interest family loan. > He charged us the Applicable Federal Rate minimum on the > interest. (At the time was 4.6%) We had the contract > legally drawn up and got our amortization schedule. We > started paying interest on the home since May of 2003. Now > I understand that this interest is deductible as it sits, > but it got complicated. > Now here, at the beginning of 2004, grandfather decided that > he felt bad for charging us interest and gave us a check in > the amount of the interest we paid him in 2003. He said > that it was a gift, and that he was going to pay taxes from > the "foregone" interest that he technically earned from us. > So I guess this basically means he is going to pay income > tax on the interest that he earned from us. > The thing I'm wondering is, if we should still deduct the > interest. My mind is telling me yes, because he is > reporting the amount of interest we paid him as an income on > his taxes - and that he simply gave us a gift. can deduct the interest. The gift is not reportable. - quote - > Question 2
If you pay it in 2004 then you can deduct it only in 2004.> Since our loan is a family loan, we get billed for the full > amount of property taxes annually. I understand that > property taxes (like for cities, police, schools and > counties) are deductible. My tax bills from the city and > county say that the bills are due by Jan 31, 2004. I am > going to pay them tomorrow which will be Jan 14, 2004. Am I > able to deduct these 2003 property taxes from my 2003 taxes > even though I paid them in Jan 2004? __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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The interest you pay is still deductible at your level and> he felt bad for charging us interest and gave us a check in > the amount of the interest we paid him in 2003. He said > that it was a gift, and that he was going to pay taxes from > the "foregone" interest that he technically earned from us. > So I guess this basically means he is going to pay income > tax on the interest that he earned from us. its income at his level. And the cashback is a gift. In close families you might take a look at relative tax rates to see if there is a better arrangement. - quote - > Am I
NO, as a cash basis taxpayer you deduct things in the year> able to deduct these 2003 property taxes from my 2003 taxes > even though I paid them in Jan 2004? you actually paid them. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Grandfather generously bought my wife and my home completely with the intension of giving us a low-interest family loan. He charged us the Applicable Federal Rate minimum on the interest. (At the time was 4.6%) We had the contract legally drawn up and got our amortization schedule. We started paying interest on the home since May of 2003. Now I understand that this interest is deductible as it sits, but it got complicated. Now here, at the beginning of 2004, grandfather decided that he felt bad for charging us interest and gave us a check in the amount of the interest we paid him in 2003. He said that it was a gift, and that he was going to pay taxes from the "foregone" interest that he technically earned from us. So I guess this basically means he is going to pay income tax on the interest that he earned from us. The thing I'm wondering is, if we should still deduct the interest. My mind is telling me yes, because he is reporting the amount of interest we paid him as an income on his taxes - and that he simply gave us a gift. Question 2 Since our loan is a family loan, we get billed for the full amount of property taxes annually. I understand that property taxes (like for cities, police, schools and counties) are deductible. My tax bills from the city and county say that the bills are due by Jan 31, 2004. I am going to pay them tomorrow which will be Jan 14, 2004. Am I able to deduct these 2003 property taxes from my 2003 taxes even though I paid them in Jan 2004? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a bunch guys/gals! Christian R. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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