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| Stuart O. Bronstein wrote: - quote - > "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
Both your response and the other, and my initial instinct> > Client (a non-attorney) pays an attorney amount "X" for a > > BUSINESS related matter. The attorney makes a minor > > screw-up and settles with the client by rebating amount "Y" > > (less than "X" but greater than $600.00) to avoid invoking > > an errors/omissions insurance claim. Both transactions > > occur in the same calendar year. How should the 1099-MISC > > be prepared? > I don't do returns so I may be off base, but my initial > reaction is to treat it as a refund and just have the client > issue the 1099 for the net amount. plus what I would do if the payment weren't to an attorney, all seem to agree on reporting ONLY the net amount (choice #3). However, in reading the history of why attorneys get 1099'ed EVEN if they were incorporated and the use of the new box 14 ("other payments to attorneys") which say that GROSS payments are reportable, this got me thinking that for an attorney payee, reporting only the net amount for the year may be wrong. That's why I asked the question - to see what others thought. Additionally, this isn't an overpayment and refund situation, but a situation where the attorney is entitled to his FULL fee and the rebate exists as a separate transaction (from the same matter). From the bookkeeping point of view of the attorney, I would see this as necessarily reporting the FULL amount in gross income, and the settlement of the error as a "return or allowance" deduction, and for the client, possibly a deduction in FULL (as it was a business case) and recognizing the rebate as "other income," alternatively as a net deduction; I'm not certain here. [If the rebate occurred in a different tax year, I would apply IRC 111 to determine its inclusion.] I just want to make certain that despite my opinion and reservations, that you still feel that only the NET need be reported (in 1099-MISC Box 7). << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > Client (a non-attorney) pays an attorney amount "X" for a
I don't do returns so I may be off base, but my initial> BUSINESS related matter. The attorney makes a minor > screw-up and settles with the client by rebating amount "Y" > (less than "X" but greater than $600.00) to avoid invoking > an errors/omissions insurance claim. Both transactions > occur in the same calendar year. How should the 1099-MISC > be prepared? reaction is to treat it as a refund and just have the client issue the 1099 for the net amount. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > Client (a non-attorney) pays an attorney amount "X" for a
Dave,> BUSINESS related matter. The attorney makes a minor > screw-up and settles with the client by rebating amount "Y" > (less than "X" but greater than $600.00) to avoid invoking > an errors/omissions insurance claim. Both transactions > occur in the same calendar year. How should the 1099-MISC > be prepared? > 1) Box 7 = "X" and box 14 = 0. (All reportable as gross > income to attorney, rebate ignored) > 2) Box 7 = "X - Y" and box 14 = "Y". (Only net amount as > gross income, amount rebated as other payment to attorney) > 3) Box 7 = "X - Y" and box 14 = 0. (Only net amount > reportable at all, rebate ignored) > 4) Some other combination of amounts and/or boxes. > Question 2: Does the attorney have to file a 1099-MISC to > report the settlement payment of the error/omission to his > client? Box 3 or elsewhere? > I believe that the situation here should be sufficiently > clear of any differences in states' law or appelate court > decision differences.... Thanks. net amount is sufficient, thus no 1099 from attorney to client. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n AL << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Client (a non-attorney) pays an attorney amount "X" for a BUSINESS related matter. The attorney makes a minor screw-up and settles with the client by rebating amount "Y" (less than "X" but greater than $600.00) to avoid invoking an errors/omissions insurance claim. Both transactions occur in the same calendar year. How should the 1099-MISC be prepared? 1) Box 7 = "X" and box 14 = 0. (All reportable as gross income to attorney, rebate ignored) 2) Box 7 = "X - Y" and box 14 = "Y". (Only net amount as gross income, amount rebated as other payment to attorney) 3) Box 7 = "X - Y" and box 14 = 0. (Only net amount reportable at all, rebate ignored) 4) Some other combination of amounts and/or boxes. Question 2: Does the attorney have to file a 1099-MISC to report the settlement payment of the error/omission to his client? Box 3 or elsewhere? I believe that the situation here should be sufficiently clear of any differences in states' law or appelate court decision differences.... Thanks. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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