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When I first read this I though the OP was saying that both> > paid $10,000 for his tuition. His mother provides health > > insurance for him thru her job. Can we both claim him as > > dependent? Years ago I claimed my daughter as dependent as > > "head of household" and her father (we were divorced) also > > claimed her. Is something like this still in existence in > > the tax code? > It wasn't in existence when you did it--you just got away > with it. What's changed is IRS's making sure that you can't > again. she and her ex claimed a dependency exemption for their daughter. On re-reading it with the responses, I think she was talking about the situation before the support test for children of divorced parents changed. In the old days it was both legal and common for the child to be the qualifying person for HofH filing status (but not a dependent) and the dependent of the noncustodial parent. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <schatzn[at]netwitz.net> wrote: - quote - > Our 19 year old grandson started college last fall. We
Something like this was NEVER in existence, what you did> paid $10,000 for his tuition. His mother provides health > insurance for him thru her job. Can we both claim him as > dependent? Years ago I claimed my daughter as dependent as > "head of household" and her father (we were divorced) also > claimed her. Is something like this still in existence in > the tax code? "years ago" was wrong. ONLY one taxpayer can claim a dependency exemption. In the case you describe, with the limited info you gave us, it looks like his mother qualifies to claim him. Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| schatzn[at]netwitz.net writes: - quote - > Our 19 year old grandson started college last fall. We
It wasn't in existence when you did it--you just got away> paid $10,000 for his tuition. His mother provides health > insurance for him thru her job. Can we both claim him as > dependent? Years ago I claimed my daughter as dependent as > "head of household" and her father (we were divorced) also > claimed her. Is something like this still in existence in > the tax code? with it. What's changed is IRS's making sure that you can't again. Your granddaughter can be claimed as a dependent on only one return and as a qualifying person for HofH filing status by only one person. Since it sounds like she lives with her mother, except when away at school, she's a HofH qualifying person for only her mother. As for dependency, it depends on who contributed more than half her support. See IRS Publication 501. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| schatzn[at]netwitz.net wrote: - quote - > Our 19 year old grandson started college last fall. We
"Can we BOTH...?" NO. NO. NO.> paid $10,000 for his tuition. His mother provides health > insurance for him thru her job. Can we both claim him as > dependent? Years ago I claimed my daughter as dependent as > "head of household" and her father (we were divorced) also > claimed her. Is something like this still in existence in > the tax code? A person can at most be the dependent of ONE taxpayer (in which case, he/she cannot claim him/herself). What was done "years ago" was also WRONG. Prior to 1987, a dependent could be claimed as such by another taxpayer and still claim him/herself on his/her own tax return. There has NEVER been a provision allowing a person to be claimed as a dependent by TWO (or more) other taxpayers. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| schatzn[at]netwitz.net wrote: - quote - > Our 19 year old grandson started college last fall. We
Only one of you could possibly claim the dependency> paid $10,000 for his tuition. His mother provides health > insurance for him thru her job. Can we both claim him as > dependent? exemption, depending on which one of you provides more than 50% of his total support for the year. There are not enough facts above to determine this. Where does he live? Who provides for his meals, clothes, etc. See Pub 501 for the five rules that you have to satisfy before you can claim him as your dependent. - quote - > Years ago I claimed my daughter as dependent as
That was never allowed by the tax code. What you and your ex> "head of household" and her father (we were divorced) also > claimed her. Is something like this still in existence in > the tax code? did was wrong. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| schatzn[at]netwitz.net wrote: - quote - > Our 19 year old grandson started college last fall. We
Only one of you could possibly claim the dependency> paid $10,000 for his tuition. His mother provides health > insurance for him thru her job. Can we both claim him as > dependent? exemption, depending on which one of you provides more than 50% of his total support for the year. There are not enough facts above to determine this. Where does he live? Who provides for his meals, clothes, etc. See Pub 501 for the five rules that you have to satisfy before you can claim him as your dependent. - quote - > Years ago I claimed my daughter as dependent as
That was never allowed by the tax code. What you and your ex> "head of household" and her father (we were divorced) also > claimed her. Is something like this still in existence in > the tax code? did was wrong. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| schatzn[at]netwitz.net wrote: - quote - > Our 19 year old grandson started college last fall. We
No. Only one person can claim the dependency exemption.> paid $10,000 for his tuition. His mother provides health > insurance for him thru her job. Can we both claim him as > dependent? - quote - > Years ago I claimed my daughter as dependent as
You're confusing two different things. It is possible for a> "head of household" and her father (we were divorced) also > claimed her. Is something like this still in existence in > the tax code? child or grandchild to be the "qualifying person" making one taxpayer eligible for head of household filing status while another taxpayer claims the child/grandchild as a dependent and claims the exemption. In order for that to work, the person claiming HoH status must be paying more than half the cost of maintaining the home of the qualifying person while at the same time the person claiming the dependency exemption must be paying more than half the cost of supporting the dependent. That can be tricky. -- D.F. Manno dommanno[at]netscape.net "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Benjamin Franklin) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <schatzn[at]netwitz.net> wrote: - quote - > Our 19 year old grandson started college last fall. We
To claim a child or grandchild as a dependent, one of the> paid $10,000 for his tuition. His mother provides health > insurance for him thru her job. Can we both claim him as > dependent? Years ago I claimed my daughter as dependent as > "head of household" and her father (we were divorced) also > claimed her. Is something like this still in existence in > the tax code? rules states you must have paid more than half his support costs. To claim a child (or grandchild) for Head of Household, one of the rules states you must have paid most of the household costs for a child who lived with you most of the year (except for temporary absenses such as attending school). An unmarried child does not have to be a dependent to qualify for Head of Household. Household costs have commonality with, but are different than support costs. So you can see it is a possibility for one person to claim a dependency exemption while another can claim head of household. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Our 19 year old grandson started college last fall. We paid $10,000 for his tuition. His mother provides health insurance for him thru her job. Can we both claim him as dependent? Years ago I claimed my daughter as dependent as "head of household" and her father (we were divorced) also claimed her. Is something like this still in existence in the tax code? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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