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| bsteiner[at]att.net (Bruce Steiner) wrote: - quote - > Katie Jaques wrote:
LOL!> > It does sound to me as though this DE corporation is a > > sales/use tax dodge. DE has no sales or use tax, so if the > > corporation took possession of the airplane in DE, there > > would be no sales tax. Whether there is a use tax liability > > to FL or any other state depends on what happened after that > > ... where did the airplane go, and when? When and where was > > its first functional use? > Perhaps they just fly back and forth between Dover and > Wilmington. Katie << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Katie Jaques wrote: - quote - > It does sound to me as though this DE corporation is a
Perhaps they just fly back and forth between Dover and> sales/use tax dodge. DE has no sales or use tax, so if the > corporation took possession of the airplane in DE, there > would be no sales tax. Whether there is a use tax liability > to FL or any other state depends on what happened after that > ... where did the airplane go, and when? When and where was > its first functional use? Wilmington. Bruce Steiner << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com (Katie Jaques) wrote: - quote - > hankal[at]aol.com (Hankal) wrote:
snip> > Owner of an aircraft registered it in a Delaware Corporation > > for liability reasons. The Corporation does not have a > > Federal ID number. Question-- Does he have to file a Federal > > tax return? No income and no expenses. - quote - > There may be no income, but surely the corporation has
Of course, I said that trusting that the OP's client is not> expenses, even if the airplane is just parked somewhere and > never flies. However, the income tax consequences of this > arrangement are probably de minimis even if returns that > were technically required have not been filed. using the airplane's expenses to offset taxable income somewhere else, e.g. on his individual return or the return of some related entity <G> . Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > We found out what was going on when his daughter contacted
The annual DE fee *IS* an expense. As to the liability issue> > us after he passed away. It turns out that he didn't file NC > > corporate returns for years and the only way to sell the BMW > > was to file them and pay the back taxes. > This individual resides in Florida. He uses a DE address for > the DE Corp and pays the annual DE fee. Since he does not > have any expenses or income the DE State requires no > Corporation Tax Return filing. He has no filing requirement > in Florida. Maybe NC has different rules. of owning a plane, he should check with a lawyer. The corporation may not provide any protection. Gary -- You can probably X figure out X which letters to X delete to derive my email address X. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| hankal[at]aol.com (Hankal) wrote: - quote - > Owner of an aircraft registered it in a Delaware Corporation
I can't answer the federal question off the top of my head.> for liability reasons. The Corporation does not have a > Federal ID number. Question-- Does he have to file a Federal > tax return? No income and no expenses. However, my question is, where is this airplane, and who uses it, for what purposes? If the airplane is hangared in Florida, the corporation is required to file a FL corporate income tax return for any year for which it is required to file a federal return (which, of course, begs the initial question). It does sound to me as though this DE corporation is a sales/use tax dodge. DE has no sales or use tax, so if the corporation took possession of the airplane in DE, there would be no sales tax. Whether there is a use tax liability to FL or any other state depends on what happened after that .... where did the airplane go, and when? When and where was its first functional use? etc. There may be no income, but surely the corporation has expenses, even if the airplane is just parked somewhere and never flies. However, the income tax consequences of this arrangement are probably de minimis even if returns that were technically required have not been filed. But there could be significant exposure to use tax. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > We found out what was going on when his daughter contacted
This individual resides in Florida. He uses a DE address for> us after he passed away. It turns out that he didn't file NC > corporate returns for years and the only way to sell the BMW > was to file them and pay the back taxes. the DE Corp and pays the annual DE fee. Since he does not have any expenses or income the DE State requires no Corporation Tax Return filing. He has no filing requirement in Florida. Maybe NC has different rules. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > Owner of an aircraft registered it in a Delaware Corporation
When I was in Charlotte, NC, we served as registered agents> > > for liability reasons. The Corporation does not have a > > > Federal ID number. Question-- Does he have to file a Federal > > > tax return? No income and no expenses. > > > Owner of an aircraft registered it in a Delaware Corporation > > > for liability reasons. The Corporation does not have a > > > Federal ID number. Question-- Does he have to file a Federal > > > tax return? No income and no expenses. > I suspect owner may have also ducked some nasty state sales > taxes. States do check this stuff out for big ticket items > like aircraft. Be sure all the steps are clean!!.! for several hundred corporations. We found out after a client died that his corporation only had one asset. His BMW. He lived in New York City. Guess where he declared the BMW was located for insurance purposes? We found out what was going on when his daughter contacted us after he passed away. It turns out that he didn't file NC corporate returns for years and the only way to sell the BMW was to file them and pay the back taxes. The moral of the story? Compare total costs, not just taxes. Gary -- You can probably X figure out X which letters to X delete to derive my email address X. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > Owner of an aircraft registered it in a Delaware Corporation
I suspect owner may have also ducked some nasty state sales> > for liability reasons. The Corporation does not have a > > Federal ID number. Question-- Does he have to file a Federal > > tax return? No income and no expenses. > > Owner of an aircraft registered it in a Delaware Corporation > > for liability reasons. The Corporation does not have a > > Federal ID number. Question-- Does he have to file a Federal > > tax return? No income and no expenses. taxes. States do check this stuff out for big ticket items like aircraft. Be sure all the steps are clean!!.! << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| hankal[at]aol.com says... - quote - > Owner of an aircraft registered it in a Delaware Corporation
There have to be expenses. Delaware imposes taxes on> for liability reasons. The Corporation does not have a > Federal ID number. Question-- Does he have to file a Federal > tax return? No income and no expenses. corporations. Regardless, the corporation needs an EIN and must file the proper federal forms. Gary -- You can probably X figure out X which letters to X delete to derive my email address X. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Owner of an aircraft registered it in a Delaware Corporation for liability reasons. The Corporation does not have a Federal ID number. Question-- Does he have to file a Federal tax return? No income and no expenses. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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