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| katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com (Katie Jaques) wrote: - quote - > Just for clarification: the previous administration did NOT
I have not read the legislation, but apparently the> "triple" the car tax. The car tax was gradually reduced > over a period of years by two-thirds, from 2% to .67% of > assessed value. The law that reduced the tax also provided > that the state would reimburse ("backfill" the local > governments for the lost revenue. It also provided that if > certain revenue targets were not met in future years, the > tax would revert to its original rate. In other words, this > is a tax cut we can afford to make now, but if conditions > change for the worse, it will automatically reverse itself. > Those targets were not met this year and the tax > automatically, according to statute, went back to 2%. The > Legislature could have enacted a law in 2003 repealing the > reversion statute, but chose not to do so, and the previous > Governor's proposed budget assumed that the state would no > longer need to backfill the local governments' revenue loss > from the reduced tax. However, there was no new law in 2003 > "tripling" the car tax. It simply went back to its historic > rate in accordance with the law. > It isn't clear to me how the present Governor could change > the law by executive order, but everyone seems to agree that > his action was not illegal. reimposition of tax is not automatic. Someone has to trigger it by making a determination that it's warranted. If the governor decides that it wasn't, in fact, warranted, the increase could be rolled back. I imagine that a court could overrule the governor, and the local governments had threatened to sue, if they did not already. That's probably a good part of the reason that the state agreed to repay the locals for money lost due to the governor's decision. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Katie Jaques wrote: - quote - > anthonyis[at]charter.net (Anthony) wrote:
I think the actual scenario worked as follows:> > I heard that Governor Schwartzeneger repealed or cut or > > stopped sales tax in California; and I was wondering if this > > was true? > > > If this is true, was it across the board sales tax cut or > > just on certain items? Was it for a certain limited time? > As others have said, it wasn't the sales tax, it was the > "car tax" that was affected. The car tax is an annual ad > valorem property tax on the value of motor vehicles that is > paid to the DMV along with the annual registration fee. The > revenue does not go to the state general fund, but is > distributed back to local governments (cities, counties, > etc.) and is a significant source of their revenue. > Just for clarification: the previous administration did NOT > "triple" the car tax. The car tax was gradually reduced > over a period of years by two-thirds, from 2% to .67% of > assessed value. The law that reduced the tax also provided > that the state would reimburse ("backfill" the local > governments for the lost revenue. It also provided that if > certain revenue targets were not met in future years, the > tax would revert to its original rate. In other words, this > is a tax cut we can afford to make now, but if conditions > change for the worse, it will automatically reverse itself. > Those targets were not met this year and the tax > automatically, according to statute, went back to 2%. The > Legislature could have enacted a law in 2003 repealing the > reversion statute, but chose not to do so, and the previous > Governor's proposed budget assumed that the state would no > longer need to backfill the local governments' revenue loss > from the reduced tax. However, there was no new law in 2003 > "tripling" the car tax. It simply went back to its historic > rate in accordance with the law. > It isn't clear to me how the present Governor could change > the law by executive order, but everyone seems to agree that > his action was not illegal. There was ambiguity in the law that lowered the rate and then specified the rate increase if certain events happened. The ambiguity was in the criteria for restoring it to 2% and the process to restore it. Gov. Davis and his Dir. of Finance declared the criteria met and let the tax go up to 2%. The new governor decided that they were in error in how they interpreted the statute. He then rescinded the letter from the Director of Finance that stated the criteria had been met. So..., I suppose you can say that he didn't lower the tax unilaterally. He just informed the DMV that they had no authority to increase it from .65% and ordered them to refund any excess tax collected. You can read the Executive Order at: If you can't decode the url, you can find the link right on the DMV homepage: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| anthonyis[at]charter.net (Anthony) wrote: - quote - > I heard that Governor Schwartzeneger repealed or cut or
As others have said, it wasn't the sales tax, it was the> stopped sales tax in California; and I was wondering if this > was true? > If this is true, was it across the board sales tax cut or > just on certain items? Was it for a certain limited time? "car tax" that was affected. The car tax is an annual ad valorem property tax on the value of motor vehicles that is paid to the DMV along with the annual registration fee. The revenue does not go to the state general fund, but is distributed back to local governments (cities, counties, etc.) and is a significant source of their revenue. Just for clarification: the previous administration did NOT "triple" the car tax. The car tax was gradually reduced over a period of years by two-thirds, from 2% to .67% of assessed value. The law that reduced the tax also provided that the state would reimburse ("backfill" the local governments for the lost revenue. It also provided that if certain revenue targets were not met in future years, the tax would revert to its original rate. In other words, this is a tax cut we can afford to make now, but if conditions change for the worse, it will automatically reverse itself. Those targets were not met this year and the tax automatically, according to statute, went back to 2%. The Legislature could have enacted a law in 2003 repealing the reversion statute, but chose not to do so, and the previous Governor's proposed budget assumed that the state would no longer need to backfill the local governments' revenue loss from the reduced tax. However, there was no new law in 2003 "tripling" the car tax. It simply went back to its historic rate in accordance with the law. It isn't clear to me how the present Governor could change the law by executive order, but everyone seems to agree that his action was not illegal. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| anthonyis[at]charter.net (Anthony) wrote: - quote - > I heard that Governor Schwartzeneger repealed or cut or
He turned back the increase in the Vehicle License Fee (VLF)> stopped sales tax in California; and I was wondering if this > was true? > If this is true, was it across the board sales tax cut or > just on certain items? Was it for a certain limited time? which had been tripled by the Legislature and Gov. Davis. The VLF is that part of the vehicle registration fee that is based on the value of the vehicle, thus a property tax, and as such, is deductible from Federal taxes. This has nothing to do with sales taxes. -- -Ernie- "There are only two kinds of computer users -- those who have suffered a catastrophic hard drive failure, and those who will." Have you done your backup today? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Anthony wrote: - quote - > I heard that Governor Schwartzeneger repealed or cut or
The Governor has no authority to repeal sales taxes. Upon> stopped sales tax in California; and I was wondering if this > was true? > If this is true, was it across the board sales tax cut or > just on certain items? Was it for a certain limited time? taking office, he signed an order that restored the vehicle license fee (VLF) to .65% of a vehicle's value retroactive to 10/1/03 the day it went up to 2%. It is way too complicated to explain how it is possible that two different governors can raise and lower the VLF. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Anthony" <anthonyis[at]charter.net> wrote - quote - > I heard that Governor Schwartzeneger repealed or cut or
I doubt it. The state NEEDS the money.> stopped sales tax in California; and I was wondering if this > was true? What was reduced was the "car" tax (whatever that was). -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia taxman at negia.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I heard that Governor Schwartzeneger repealed or cut or stopped sales tax in California; and I was wondering if this was true? If this is true, was it across the board sales tax cut or just on certain items? Was it for a certain limited time? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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