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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > Unlike education, where the nature has to be related to the
The IRS position in Rev. Rul. 75-120 is that it does have to> current field one is employed in (or last employed in) and > not qualify one for a different job, I don't see where job > search expenses for an UNRELATED field would fail to > qualify.... be incurred in the same trade or business--and a quick follow up in RIA's Citator indicates that the Tax Court has referenced this ruling in a number of cases over the years, and doesn't appear to have ever suggested it was overreaching. -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| According to Pub 17, "looking for a new job in your present occupation" is the criterion. They also don't count looking for a job for the first time, and looking for a job in a new occupation. So they use the same rules as for deductible education. Nan, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > Unlike education, where the nature has to be related to the
Without researching beyond the Quickfinder, I fear that job> current field one is employed in (or last employed in) and > not qualify one for a different job, I don't see where job > search expenses for an UNRELATED field would fail to > qualify.... hunting expenses are deductible only if incurred in the course of seeking employment in one's present line of work. This is true even if the search is unsuccessful. "However, expenses of looking for a new job in a new trade or business, even if a job is found, are not deductible." << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| naneklund[at]aol.com (Nan Eklund) wrote: - quote - > As far as I know other professions would follow the same
Interestsing. At least in California anybody with an MD can> rules. However, the IRS has some funny sticking points. I > happen to be an expert on teachers' taxes but not on nurses. > The job hunting rules follow the education rules which > specify that you must have fulfilled the basic requirements > for the position A nurses' aide has not completed the basic > requirements of being a nurse = two different jobs. A > teachers' aide would not be in the same job as a teacher. practice any kind of medicine. So if a GP takes classes to become a brain surgeon, he's only increasing his skill level for something he's legally licensed to do already (though it would certainly be negligent for him to do). Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur Kamlet wrote: - quote - > Nan Eklund <naneklund[at]aol.com> wrote:
Unlike education, where the nature has to be related to the> > Yes as long as you are looking for a job in the education > > field (which is a continuum from kindergarten to college).. > > Mileage, parking, overnight expenses on Form 2106. > So is this rule restricted to the education field or does it > apply to other fields? > Example: Can a nurses aid who completed req'ts for an RN > and is seeking an RN position deduct job search expenses > because they are both in the medical field, or more closely, > in the nursing field? current field one is employed in (or last employed in) and not qualify one for a different job, I don't see where job search expenses for an UNRELATED field would fail to qualify.... << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur Kamlet <kamlet[at]panix.com> wrote: - quote - > Example: Can a nurses aid who completed req'ts for an RN
Everything I've seen seems to indicate that medical> and is seeking an RN position deduct job search expenses > because they are both in the medical field, or more closely, > in the nursing field? certifications are considered to be new/separate occupations for the purpose any limitations based on the "same occupation" concept. The occupational field of education does seem to be somewhat uniquely blessed with NOT suffering from this problem. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote: - quote - > Nan Eklund <naneklund[at]aol.com> wrote:
It applies to any field. His point was that you have to be> > Yes as long as you are looking for a job in the education > > field (which is a continuum from kindergarten to college).. > > Mileage, parking, overnight expenses on Form 2106. > So is this rule restricted to the education field or does it > apply to other fields? looking for a job in the same field you're already in, and the OP was in education. Expenses related to learning a new profession are *not* deductible. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| As far as I know other professions would follow the same rules. However, the IRS has some funny sticking points. I happen to be an expert on teachers' taxes but not on nurses. The job hunting rules follow the education rules which specify that you must have fulfilled the basic requirements for the position A nurses' aide has not completed the basic requirements of being a nurse = two different jobs. A teachers' aide would not be in the same job as a teacher. Nan, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Nan Eklund <naneklund[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > Yes as long as you are looking for a job in the education
So is this rule restricted to the education field or does it> field (which is a continuum from kindergarten to college).. > Mileage, parking, overnight expenses on Form 2106. apply to other fields? Example: Can a nurses aid who completed req'ts for an RN and is seeking an RN position deduct job search expenses because they are both in the medical field, or more closely, in the nursing field? __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Yes as long as you are looking for a job in the education field (which is a continuum from kindergarten to college).. Mileage, parking, overnight expenses on Form 2106. Phone calls, resumes, postage, etc on Sch A, misc, subject to the 2% of AGI limit. Nan, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I retired as a school admnistrator in June. However, I did look for jobs and in fact I am now teaching at our local college. Can I deduct all my expenses in looking for a job, including travel for job interviews? MB << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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