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| Ed Zollars, CPA <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote: - quote - > Note, as well, that the rule doesn't say you have to answer
Actually, my point was that the questions on the forms DO> the question--just that you need to make a reasonable effort > to obtain the information. matter even though it might be impossible to find specific statutory support for the question. In this regard, the forms DO matter. Simply computing the correct statutory tax liability on the back of a cocktail napkin would apparently not meet applicable professional standards. So, those (CPAs, at least) who ignore the forms do so at their own peril. <g MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Michael T Wing CPA wrote: - quote - > Ed Zollars, CPA <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote:
I'm reminded of W C Fields, I think it was, who said "I> > "A member should make a reasonable effort to obtain from the > > taxpayer the information necessary to provide appropriate > > answers to all questions on a tax return before signing as > > preparer." > So, in other words, sometimes the forms DO matter! <g> My loophole, of course, is that I am not a "member." wouldn't want to be a member of any club who would stoop so low as to admit me to membership." Or words to that effect. just kidding. Christmas Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA ============================================ Moderator: That quote is from Groucho Marx. ============================================ << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Michael T Wing CPA wrote: - quote - > Ed Zollars, CPA <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote:
In Arizona that wouldn't matter, as compliance with those> > "A member should make a reasonable effort to obtain from the > > taxpayer the information necessary to provide appropriate > > answers to all questions on a tax return before signing as > > preparer." > So, in other words, sometimes the forms DO matter! <g> My loophole, of course, is that I am not a "member." standards is "presumed" to indicate the level of care expected of a CPA in tax practice. And, most likely, in the courts in the state of Washington, in a case involving civil liability, it arguably would be used to indicate what a "reasonable" practitioner would have done, assuming the taxpayer suffered some harm from a failure to answer the question. That said, the problem is that if you fail to make an effort to obtain the information necessary to answer the questions, there's a real question about whether you have done the job you were contracted for--that is, to prepare the tax return. As well, since you aren't supposed to involved in assistance in evading the law, there'd be a real question of accepting the engagement if you *were* engaged to prepare the entire return but to not ask any questions about certain questions on the return... Note, as well, that the rule doesn't say you have to answer the question--just that you need to make a reasonable effort to obtain the information. -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Ed Zollars, CPA <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote: - quote - > "A member should make a reasonable effort to obtain from the
So, in other words, sometimes the forms DO matter! <g> taxpayer the information necessary to provide appropriate > answers to all questions on a tax return before signing as > preparer." My loophole, of course, is that I am not a "member." MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A.G. Kalman wrote: - quote - > I believe the presence of the line on the forms does
I would agree that there is likely a general obligation> obligate tax preparers to, at a minimum, inform the taxpayer > of its meaning and tax obligation. since taxpayers would assume the preparer is going to advise them on the items on the return. As well, CPAs who are bound by the Statements on Standards for Tax Practices (and that's both officially and "unofficially" because courts could very well look there in a civil case for what is "normal practice" for a CPA) will find that paragraph 2 of Statement 2 notes that: "A member should make a reasonable effort to obtain from the taxpayer the information necessary to provide appropriate answers to all questions on a tax return before signing as preparer." -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I saw a peek at the 2003 CA income tax forms. CA has now joined other states by adding a line to all of their income tax returns for payment of Use Tax. There are almost three pages in the booklets on this subject. The instruction booklets contain a table of rates by county and city where applicable. The instructions explain a taxpayers obligation to pay Use Tax on purchases from out-of-state sellers. Unlike some other states, the instructions state that a taxpayer "may" (my emphasis) report the tax on the income tax return or they may elect to file a Use Tax return with the CA BOE and send the payment directly to the BOE. I believe the presence of the line on the forms does obligate tax preparers to, at a minimum, inform the taxpayer of its meaning and tax obligation. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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