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| ================================================== ========= Moderator: All comments on Mr. Eckenstein's paper should e-mailed to him. No comments will be posted here. ================================================== ========= Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > "Will Eckenstein" <weckenste[at]stu.parkland.edu> wrote
Thank you all for your input. Your thoughts and advice> > I'm a college student grathering reserch for my final paper. > > My working thesis is "Individual tax preparers should be > > certified in some way in order to prove competency and grant > > individual taxpayers protection from persons who fraudulently > > claim to understand the tax code." Anyone who has thoughts, > > feedback, or sugestions for resarch material, please > > respond. > CPA's, Tax Attornies, and Enrolled Agents are already > federally authorized tax preparers (FATP) per Circular 230. > However, Enrolled Agents are the only FATP's who have > taken an indepth tax examination (and not all have been > required to do so). So the issue is not simply initial > certification, but rather continuing professional > education (CPE). > Chain tax practices will probably support your thesis because > 1) they simply need one certified supervisor per office and > 2) it will make it more difficult for their uncertified > employees to start their own practices. > There is an awesome lobby of uncertified accountants in > every State, Commonwealth, and Territory of the United > States and they will fight your thesis as though you were > violating one of their birth rights. > After writing all of this, I ask "What is the problem?" > Is that anyone can claim to be a tax preparer? Is it > that there are tax preparers who fail to stay current on > the tax law via CPE? Or is it that tax preparers fail > to comply with Professional Standards for Tax Practice? > While I support your thesis, I suspect it represents an > incomplete solution. helped me a great deal while developing my paper. I am hoping one day to work in an accounting field and i am still very interested in this topic. please continue to write about why or why not this is a good idea. In case anyone is interested, Im posting the final paper for anyone who would like to read it. Please post any coments or Criticism you think I should hear. Thank you. Will Eckenstein. Do You Really Save Money During Tax Time? A Look at Paid Preparers and How They May Not Benefit You. Prepared for: Tax payers considering hiring a tax preparer Prepared by: Will Eckenstein December 15, 2003 Abstract Completing an income tax return is often extremely complicated, and thousands of citizens hire a paid tax preparer every year. Consumers need to be well informed about the expertise of the person they hire. There are numerous pitfalls in hiring a tax preparer, the most serious of which is that at the current time, anyone would be allowed to call themselves a tax preparer and charge for this service, regardless of experience or competence. The best way to remedy this situation is to require an accreditation system for tax preparers. Keywords: tax minimization, certified public accountant (CPA), enrolled agent, audit Introduction The total amount of revenue generated by income tax in the United States in 1998 was approximately 1.48 trillion dollars (). The Internal Revenue Service has a complicated and lengthy set of regulations that citizens must follow to file their tax returns. A large portion of the population decides each year that they cannot understand the paperwork for filling taxes, or do not have the time (). The tax preparation industry has grown to fill this need. Although the United States government regulates the money supply, the interest rates, and the amount of taxation, credentials are not required for tax preparers. Individual tax preparers should be certified in some way by the federal government in order to prove competency and grant individual taxpayers protection from persons who fraudulently claim to understand the tax code. Research Goals and Methods To gather information for this topic, I reviewed several web sites, including the sites for the Accreditation Council for Accountancy and Taxation. I read publications, books, and the occupational guide published by the U.S. Department of Labor. Valuable information also came from personal interviews with tax preparers and financial advisors. I also spoke to an agent for the Internal Revenue Service about the ideas in this paper. Discussion Overview and Reasons for Hiring a Tax Preparer "Currently, any man or woman regardless of education can legally claim he or she is proficient in tax preparation" according to Mrs. Rayna, a local Tax preparer for H&R Block. "They can charge a fee for tax preparation services. "If mistakes are made by the tax preparer in the return, the taxpayer is still held responsible." The number of incorrect and improperly filed returns totaled $32.5 million for 2002. (IRS…). According to financial author Charles Jaffe, "Anyone who wants to can hang out a sign and operate as a tax preparer. It is not always easy to check a preparer's background or expertise." (203). Americans spend over seven billion dollars annually having their federal taxes prepared. Almost half of all income tax returns are completed by a paid preparer (Masselli 1). The reasons citizens choose to get help with their tax preparation include timesavings, income level, tax minimization, and desire for accuracy. In 2001, according to the IRS, the average taxpayer took over 13 hours to complete the yearly income tax return (Garcia 1). Tax law complexity is yet another reason. The Internal Revenue Code has 1.3 million words. The tax code regulations that accompany it number 5.75 million words. Today our tax code is so large that not even the "civil servants at the IRS" can consistently apply it (Shlaes 16). The timely and accurate preparation of tax forms is a daunting task that frequently results in missed filing dates, incorrect payments, and penalties. Very few people like to do tax forms. The papers end up at the bottom of the work pile, which can result in a last-minute rush to complete them without much regard for accuracy. The solution that thousands of citizens choose is to have their taxes completed by a paid preparer, although fees can run into high hourly rates (Bragg 241). Tax preparers say they are trained to look for commonly overlooked items. They tell people that they are trained to look for things that are often missed, leading clients to rely on a tax preparer's services. Quality of Work by Tax Preparers Millions pay someone to fill out their returns, believing they will get every benefit the tax law allows, but this is not the case. According to a study by USA Today, two million returns were filed by tax preparers using standard deductions, when using itemized deductions would have minimized the clients' tax bills. The article estimated that 230,00 returns by tax preparers failed to claim the child tax credit for the year 2001. Computational errors on returns by paid preparers totaled 357,000 in that same year. Researchers have also uncovered unethical practices such as filing returns for married couples, where each one claimed "head of household" status to boost deductions for each spouse (USA Today 1). Money Magazine does an annual study using 60 tax preparers, involving preparing a hypothetical tax return for a family. For the seventh time in the history of the test, no two preparers came up with the same bottom line. For the third time, no one turned in an error-free return (Caplin 1). This indicates that even though people can claim to be tax professionals, the quality of their results is not always accurate. On a different test with 50 randomly selected preparers from the yellow pages, ten questions were asked about tax legislation. None got them all right, and only 34 got at least half right (Tritch 1). Again, the quality of the work done by those who consider themselves tax preparers may be in question. Tax preparers complete tax returns for individuals or small businesses but do not necessarily have the educational background or experience with the varied responsibilities of an accredited accountant. In the year 2000, 69,000 people were employed or self-employed as tax preparers (Occupational 595). The most significant source of training for these individuals is moderate-term on-the-job training. Currently Available Training and Accreditation Programs Local tax preparing agencies such as H & R Block do require a training program for employees. Trainees must pass a basic, 66-hour initial course. Each subsequent year, they are required to pass a 24-to 30-hour continuing education training class. Most of the storefront tax chains, such as Jackson Hewitt and others offer similar minimum to moderate levels of training for staff. "We have CPAs who come to take our tax courses," according to Ms. Rayna. Usually CPAs are trained in accounting but not necessarily tax laws. In the courses, the material starts out with simple concepts but quickly gets harder. Enrollment declines as the class gets more challenging. Not all trainees complete the course. These classes cover tax laws and tax preparation. H & R Block is the biggest and most trusted tax preparation business in the country, according to Money Magazine. H & R Block is working towards a certification process where all employees must earn the H & R Block certification. When problems arise, there are penalties for filing intentionally fraudulent claims ion order to get people more refunds. Tax preparers are liable for fines and penalties for false claims. Mrs. Rayna told me that the tax payer must also pay any differences, plus interest if fraudulent returns are discovered. On the other hand, Mrs. Rayna told me that a national program to certify tax preparers would not have a big impact, according to some paid preparers. In firms with training programs already set up, some employees do not feel additional credentials are needed. The burden of certification would immediately be passed on to consumers in terms of higher fees. Preparers would charge more to cover the costs incurred for the classes and/or testing. Advantages of Professional Recognition Professional recognition through certification or licensure provides a distinct advantage in the job market. Most accountant and auditor positions require at least a bachelor's degree in accounting or a related field, and all certified public accountants (CPAs) must have a certificate issued by their state's Board of Accountancy. According to the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, 38 states require CPAs to complete an additional 30 hours of college coursework beyond the usual 4-year degree requirement. These licensure requirements have been adoped through legislation, and those states that have not yet passed such laws will be doing so in the future (Occupational 22). Nearly all states also require a certain number of hours of continuing education before licenses can be renewed. Professional societies offer other forms of credentials on a voluntary basis. Voluntary certification can attest to specialized skills in a particular area, and it can certify that a recognized level of professional competence has been achieved. The Accreditation Council for Accountancy and Taxation, a subdivision of the National Society of Public Accountants, confers the designation of Accredited Tax Preparer. Candidates must complete required coursework and pass an exam in order to earn this credential. The National Association of Enrolled Agents in Maryland lists names of financial and tax professionals who have completed coursework and taken a test to be certified by that organization (Jaffee 204) Enrolled agents are under-recognized specialists who have passed a comprehensive exam entitling them to represent clients before the IRS (Jaffee 187). Continuing education is required in order to retain the designation. Recommendations In addition to the technicalities of crunching the numbers, a tax preparer should be held accountable for confidentiality. Besides just avoiding the aggravation of filling out the forms, clients should be able to feel confident that personal information such as income, investment results, medical bills, and more will be kept securely within the boundaries of the preparer's office. Customers have to find the right match of competence, expertise, price, and integrity. Standardized certification would elevate tax preparation from a part-time, seasonal job to a career opportunity. Currently Accredited Tax Preparers or Accredited Tax Advisors hold credentials that signify they have completed a course offered by the College of Financial Planning and have passed an exam. If legislation were passed requiring credentials of this kind for all tax preparers, consumers could be assured of a basic, uniform level of competence for a job that is quite a bit more involved that just processing paperwork. If compensation for the preparer is involved, and he claims to have knowledge of the federal tax laws, the person should have some qualification. There should be a minimum level of knowledge required for the different classifications of taxes being filed. Certification could be at different levels, such as being certified for individual tax returns, partnership returns, corporate returns, and so forth. "Someone who just does individual returns does not necessarily need to be certified for corporate returns," according to Mr. Locher, former tax preprarer. The client could then make a decision on whether to use the same preparer for various kinds of tax needs, based on the preparer's credentials. Conclusion More complex requirements for accountants and auditors will arise in the future from changes in legislation (Occupational 24). It is likely that an accreditation system for tax preparers will be a trend in the future (Occupational 23). By nationalizing an agency that oversees the accreditation of tax preparers, consumers would have more confidence in their preparer. Taxpayers would have at least a minimum assurance of competency when choosing a tax professional. The procedure could involve a test such as the CPA exam, which would certify that the preparers are adequately familiar with the tax code. Appendix A Interview with Ms. A Rayna, employee of H & R Block of Urbana, Illinois Date: November 13, 2003 Q: A tax preparer should or should not be licensed? A: They are not required to right now, but I think it is a good idea. Q: What did you have to go through to become a tax preparer? A; 66 hours of a basic class and then we do 24 to 30 hours each year, in additional training. Q: Do you have to go back into the classroom each year? What do you do in there? A: Tax laws and tax preparation. Q: Do you know how long the tax code is? A: REALLY BIG! Q: How liable is an individual tax preparer when signing off and having that income tax return be wrong? A: As long it is not intentional or fraudulent, there is not a problem with that. There are fines if it is prepared fraudulently, by intention to get people more money. Q: If they could prove it was intentional, then you're in trouble, right? A: Yes. Q: Do you think there should be more liability, or less? A: When we work for Block, they stand behind us. So anything that's done in our office is stood behind by the company. Q: If you were the one that filled out a return for a customer, and they got audited, where would you be in terms of that customer? A: We go on audits with clients. But not me personally – we have specialized people that are familiar with that go on the audits. They have been a lot more experienced. Q: I read somewhere that H & R Block is the largest tax preparer in the nation. Is that correct? A: I would say so. Q: If every tax preparer had to be licensed in some way, how would that change your company? A: We are already working towards the certification with our people. I don't think it would have a big impact. We would have more people in class! Q: How would I benefit from coming to you to get my taxes done? A: We are trained to look for overlooked items and our tax preparation software is top of the line. We have studied all the in's and out's. A lot of times we will find things you are entitled to that you may not know you are entitled to. Q: If you feel that they should have a stamp or a seal or a license saying that a person is legally entitled to prepare taxes, why hasn't it happened yet? A: I don't think it's real good for people to do it at a kitchen table, because they may not know what to do. We see a lot of mistakes, even when people go to the library and get some help. For simple ones, it may not be a big deal, but for the more complicated ones… Q: What can a CPA do that you can't? A: Usually CPA's are more accounting trained. They are not necessarily tax law trained. We do get CPAs who come here and take our tax course, to get the tax knowledge. Q: Is it hard to be a tax preparer? A: Sometimes. Q: Was the school difficult? A: It's a tough class. We had, this past year, we had a few drop. We start out simple and build. Especially people who have other jobs have a hard time getting all the homework done and attending class. Q: So you feel there should be a certification process? A: Uh huh, yes. Q: Should there be more liability on a tax preparer? A: No, I don't think so. We have to deal with what people tell us. If they say they drove this many miles, we have to go on what they tell us. There are fines and stuff set up for people that continually put bogus information on returns. These things are under the penalties of purgery. Q: What would happen to the individual who paid you money, is the tax payer still liable? A: Yeah. Q: Would an individual get in more or less trouble than the tax preparer if a mistake is made? A: The whole thing is based on fraud. But mistakes are going to happen. At H & R Block, if we make a mistake on a return and it ends up costing the taxpayer, H & R Block always pays the penalty and interest. If it's our error, we pay for it. Q: Thank you. I really appreciate this. [new page] Appendix B Interview with Mr. Jim Locher, former tax preparer for Farm Business/Farm Management with the University of Illinois and current controller for Golden Harvest Seed Company Date: Nov. 14, 2003 Q: What is your current job? A: I am now a controller for a seed company. Q: How much does that have to do with taxes? A: Actually, we do not do a lot of taxes ourselves, but I used to do taxes for individuals when I worked at the University. We hire out the tax function. We prepare the paperwork, and they fill out the forms. Q: So you use a tax preparer? A: Yes. It's the same firm that does our audits. That same information is passed to the tax department. Q: Do you think a tax preparer should be licensed? A: It depends on whether there is compensation involved. For instance, I prepare my parents' taxes, but I don't have to sign off on that. But for people getting paid for it, they probably should. It's a consumer safeguard, because if you walk in to somebody and someone holds themselves out to have knowledge of the federal tax laws and they don't, it can cause problems for the tax payer. Q: Is there liability for a tax preparer? A: There is no liability unless it's flagrant negligence. And then it would have to be brought by the tax payer to the attention of the IRS. I'm saying there should not necessarily be more liability, but there should be a certain level of knowledge that the tax preparer meets. You could be certified at different levels. Like for a trust or estate tax or for individual. Someone who is doing individual taxes does not need to be certified for a corporate return. Then if I went to you and saw you were certified for only individual taxes, I would be taking my chances letting you do my corporate return. You still have to be careful of dishonest tax payers who supply false information. I'm not saying there should be more liability; I'm saying there should be a certification process. The burden of certification would be passed to the consumer, in terms of the cost of the classes and so forth. On the other hand, there is value received there. Q: Thank you for answering my questions. Work Cited Shales, Amity. The Greedy Hand. New York: Random House, 1999. Jaffe, Charles A. The Right Way to Hire Financial Help. Massachusetts: The MIT Press, 1998. Occupational Outlook Handbook. Washington, DC: U.S. Printing Office, 2002 Bragg, Steven M. Accounting Best Practices. New York: John Wiley & Sons, Inc, 2001 Garcia, Erica. "Checking up on the IRS: Money Tested the IRS Agents who help you file your taxes. They did well - - sometimes". Money Magazine 1 May 2002. Caplin, Joan "6 mistakes even the pros make" Money Magazine 1 March 1998. Trich, Teresa "Odds are, your tax preparer Doesn't grasp the law". Money Magazine 1 March 1996 Masselli, John J. "Tax Preparers: whose side are they on?" The National Public Account 1996: 2 pars. Abstract. 23 Nov. 2003 <http://www. "Choose your tax preparer carefully." 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| Will Eckenstein <weckenste[at]stu.parkland.edu> wrote: - quote - > I'm a college student grathering reserch for my final paper.
The problems I see with a universal licensing requirement> My working thesis is "Individual tax preparers should be > certified in some way in order to prove competency and grant > individual taxpayersprotection from persons who fraudulently > claim to understand the tax code." Anyone who has thoughts, > feedback, or sugestions for resarch material, please > respond. are that: 1) Much of tax preparation is NOT "rocket science," and 2) The costs of maintaining such a program will have to be borne by SOMEONE. There would no doubt be much debate as to WHO should pay for such programs. For example, should the entire cost be borne by the licensees??? Or should some of the cost be absorbed by "the people" (state governments) on the theory that consumers are benefited generally??? Next you get into budgetary game-playing in the state legislatures. For example, in my state the legislature is just ~thrilled~ to see state agencies (such as my licensor, the Board of Accountancy) generate revenue by imposing all sorts of fees on things. However, the legislature believes (can you believe this...) that such moneys belong to IT (the state treasury), and NOT to the agency that raised the money in the first place!!! So, the agency is then left to fight tooth and nail to get at least ~some~ of the money back through the budgetary process to actually pay for the licensing and compliance programs in question. So long as this mentality prevails in some or all of the 50 states, I don't think meaningful universal licensing of tax preparers (or anyone else who isn't practicing some "life threatening" craft) is likely to happen. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| weckenste[at]stu.parkland.edu says... - quote - > I'm a college student grathering reserch for my final paper.
California has such requirements.> My working thesis is "Individual tax preparers should be > certified in some way in order to prove competency and grant > individual taxpayersprotection from persons who fraudulently > claim to understand the tax code." Anyone who has thoughts, > feedback, or sugestions for resarch material, please > respond. Contact CTEC (California Tax Education Council). Go to www.ctec.org and www.ftb.ca.gov/professionals/index.html Cliff CA Tax Preparer << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Will Eckenstein wrote: - quote - > I'm a college student grathering reserch for my final paper.
I don't think you will find anyone on this site that will> My working thesis is "Individual tax preparers should be > certified in some way in order to prove competency and grant > individual taxpayersprotection from persons who fraudulently > claim to understand the tax code." Anyone who has thoughts, > feedback, or sugestions for resarch material, please > respond. disagree with certification and licensing of tax preparers. In 1996, the California legislature amended the Business & Professions Code to require certification and licensing for paid preparers. Certain individuals were exempt. Such as: individuals holding a current valid license issued by the CA Board of Accountancy, any active member of the CA State Bar, and Enrolled Agents. You can find lots of good information at the website of the California Tax Education Council, the licensing agent for paid preparers in CA. http://www.ctec.org -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Will Eckenstein" <weckenste[at]stu.parkland.edu> wrote - quote - > I'm a college student grathering reserch for my final paper.
It was mentioned in a CPE class earlier this year that there> My working thesis is "Individual tax preparers should be > certified in some way in order to prove competency and grant > individual taxpayersprotection from persons who fraudulently > claim to understand the tax code." Anyone who has thoughts, > feedback, or sugestions for resarch material, please > respond. was some legislation being tossed around in a Congressional committee about that very subject. I don't know how you would go about finding out about it. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia taxman at negia.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Will Eckenstein" <weckenste[at]stu.parkland.edu> wrote - quote - > I'm a college student grathering reserch for my final paper.
CPA's, Tax Attornies, and Enrolled Agents are already> My working thesis is "Individual tax preparers should be > certified in some way in order to prove competency and grant > individual taxpayers protection from persons who fraudulently > claim to understand the tax code." Anyone who has thoughts, > feedback, or sugestions for resarch material, please > respond. federally authorized tax preparers (FATP) per Circular 230. However, Enrolled Agents are the only FATP's who have taken an indepth tax examination (and not all have been required to do so). So the issue is not simply initial certification, but rather continuing professional education (CPE). Chain tax practices will probably support your thesis because 1) they simply need one certified supervisor per office and 2) it will make it more difficult for their uncertified employees to start their own practices. There is an awesome lobby of uncertified accountants in every State, Commonwealth, and Territory of the United States and they will fight your thesis as though you were violating one of their birth rights. After writing all of this, I ask "What is the problem?" Is that anyone can claim to be a tax preparer? Is it that there are tax preparers who fail to stay current on the tax law via CPE? Or is it that tax preparers fail to comply with Professional Standards for Tax Practice? While I support your thesis, I suspect it represents an incomplete solution. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I'm a college student grathering reserch for my final paper. My working thesis is "Individual tax preparers should be certified in some way in order to prove competency and grant individual taxpayersprotection from persons who fraudulently claim to understand the tax code." Anyone who has thoughts, feedback, or sugestions for resarch material, please respond. thank you, Will Eckenstein weckenste[at]stu.parkland.edu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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