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| AES/newspost <siegman[at]stanford.edu> wrote: - quote - > I'm just wondering if anyone has any reactions to the tax
As I recall, there are 2 or 3 investment management> and financial implications of this idea, or pointers to it's > being implemented anywhere else? companies in the country that specialize in handling these accounts for smaller charities and colleges. One of them ~might~ be TIAA/CREF, but I don't recall the names for sure. Since there are fiduciary and investment advisory functions connected to this kind of activity, I suspect that it would be "dangerous" from a liability perspective for a small charity to engage in direct management. There might also be state/local securities licensing issues to consider. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| AES/newspost <siegman[at]stanford.edu> wrote: - quote - > Some major universities, other nonprofits, offer packaged
I don't remember all the details, but in addition to a> charitable remainder trust plans (or some variation of same) > to donors: send us $XXXXX (usually in low five figures or > above); we take care of all the paperwork; you get a > lifetime annuity income and an immediate benefits-adjusted > tax deduction; we get the principal in the end. > I've heard it said that plans of this type need to have > minimum donations of $5K or above to be "management > efficient", and that sounds reasonable. > I'm involved with a small tax-exempt professional society > which is wondering if it could set up something similar but > simpler, involving minimum donations in the $1K range, which > would be closer to what our members are likely to be able to > afford, and non-cash lifetime benefits. charitable remainder annuity trust, there is also something called a charitable remainder unitrust. I believe that a single unitrust can be used for multiple contributors, so you can get effeciencies of scale that way. It looks like all contributors to a unitrust will have to take the same percentage return, though I'm not certain about that. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| AES/newspost <siegman[at]stanford.edu> wrote: - quote - > Some major universities, other nonprofits, offer packaged
Unless your "society" is a 501(c)3 organization, or a church> charitable remainder trust plans (or some variation of same) > to donors: send us $XXXXX (usually in low five figures or > above); we take care of all the paperwork; you get a > lifetime annuity income and an immediate benefits-adjusted > tax deduction; we get the principal in the end. > I've heard it said that plans of this type need to have > minimum donations of $5K or above to be "management > efficient", and that sounds reasonable. > I'm involved with a small tax-exempt professional society > which is wondering if it could set up something similar but > simpler, involving minimum donations in the $1K range, which > would be closer to what our members are likely to be able to > afford, and non-cash lifetime benefits. > Basic idea would be, at or around your retirement date send > us $1K (or some similar number); we put your donation into > our endowment fund in some form of trust (the society has a > legally separate foundation); give you in return a special > "lifetime membership" with standard member benefits for life > (annual dues are otherwise in the $50 to $100 range); you > get immediate valued-adjusted deduction; we get the money > free of trust eventually. Benefits for the society are > simplied bookkeeping and maybe prolonged member loyalty and > participation; benefits for the members are similar. > I'm just wondering if anyone has any reactions to the tax > and financial implications of this idea, or pointers to it's > being implemented anywhere else? or school, I think you are chasing the wrong thing. Setting up a CRT for only $1000 sounds rather inefficient. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Some major universities, other nonprofits, offer packaged charitable remainder trust plans (or some variation of same) to donors: send us $XXXXX (usually in low five figures or above); we take care of all the paperwork; you get a lifetime annuity income and an immediate benefits-adjusted tax deduction; we get the principal in the end. I've heard it said that plans of this type need to have minimum donations of $5K or above to be "management efficient", and that sounds reasonable. I'm involved with a small tax-exempt professional society which is wondering if it could set up something similar but simpler, involving minimum donations in the $1K range, which would be closer to what our members are likely to be able to afford, and non-cash lifetime benefits. Basic idea would be, at or around your retirement date send us $1K (or some similar number); we put your donation into our endowment fund in some form of trust (the society has a legally separate foundation); give you in return a special "lifetime membership" with standard member benefits for life (annual dues are otherwise in the $50 to $100 range); you get immediate valued-adjusted deduction; we get the money free of trust eventually. Benefits for the society are simplied bookkeeping and maybe prolonged member loyalty and participation; benefits for the members are similar. I'm just wondering if anyone has any reactions to the tax and financial implications of this idea, or pointers to it's being implemented anywhere else? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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