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Old 11-18-2003, 10:46 PM
CBotella
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Default Re: Deducting health insurance paid by employer.

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> A sole proprietor cannot tax a schedule C deduction for his
> own health insurance, but can take a form 1040 adjustment
> for it.


Whew! That is what I have been doing, for several years now
(taking it as an adjustment on the 1040). Just thought that
maybe I was doing it wrong. Thanks for the replies.

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Old 11-18-2003, 01:59 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Default Re: Deducting health insurance paid by employer.

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> > But if you are a sole proprietor and you work for yourself,
> > you can't deduct your own health insurance.


> Is this true?


NO.

However the question only involves on where you deduct it.
schedule C? (no) or page 1 of 1040? (yes.

Cheer$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 11-18-2003, 01:59 AM
Stuart O. Bronstein
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smithff33[at]aol.com (Herb Smith) wrote:
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> "Stuart O. Bronstein" <spamtrap[at]lexregia.com> wrote:

> > But if you are a sole proprietor and you work for yourself,
> > you can't deduct your own health insurance. At least, your
> > not supposed to the last time I checked.


> You need to check more often, Stu. This provision (at
> increasing percentages) has been available for several
> years. This an "above the line" deduction.


Thanks. That's one of the many reasons you do returns
and I don't!

Stu

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Old 11-18-2003, 01:59 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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Default Re: Deducting health insurance paid by employer.

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> > But if you are a sole proprietor and you work for yourself,
> > you can't deduct your own health insurance.


> Is this true?


To paraphrase a certain president, it depends on your
definition of the word "true."

Actually on the definition of the word "deduct."

A sole proprietor cannot tax a schedule C deduction for his
own health insurance, but can take a form 1040 adjustment
for it.

This means it will not lower self employment income or self
employment tax.

If the sole proprietor employs his spouse, and provides a
family plan health policy for his spouse which happens to
cover him too, he can deduct that.

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Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 11-18-2003, 01:59 AM
John H. Fisher
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> > But if you are a sole proprietor and you work for yourself,
> > you can't deduct your own health insurance.


> Is this true?


In the sense that it cannot be deducted as a business
expense, YES!! However, It could qualify for an adjustment
to income!!= A way around it (as a business expense)
might be that you hire your spouse as an employee, carrying
you under her coverage.

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Old 11-17-2003, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Deducting health insurance paid by employer.

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> But if you are a sole proprietor and you work for yourself,
> you can't deduct your own health insurance.


Is this true?

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Old 11-17-2003, 09:06 PM
Herb Smith
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"Stuart O. Bronstein" <spamtrap[at]lexregia.com> wrote:
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> ed[at]edcosoft.com (ed) wrote:
> > taxman99[at]aol.com (BigAl) wrote:


> > > It's my understanding that health insurance provided by an
> > > employer is not included in the employees wages and
> > > therefore no social security taxes and unemployment taxes
> > > are due.
> > > > > Assuming the employer is a sole proprietor, is the employer
> > > allowed a deduction on Sch. C for the health insurance
> > > premiums that he/she paid for an employee?


> > Yes, that is a legitimate deduction on Schedule C Part II ,
> > line 14. You can deduct your own helath insurance premiums
> > on 1040 line 29


> But if you are a sole proprietor and you work for yourself,
> you can't deduct your own health insurance. At least, your
> not supposed to the last time I checked.


You need to check more often, Stu. This provision (at
increasing percentages) has been available for several
years. This an "above the line" deduction.

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Old 11-15-2003, 05:51 PM
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ed[at]edcosoft.com (ed) wrote:
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> taxman99[at]aol.com (BigAl) wrote:

> > It's my understanding that health insurance provided by an
> > employer is not included in the employees wages and
> > therefore no social security taxes and unemployment taxes
> > are due.
> > > Assuming the employer is a sole proprietor, is the employer

> > allowed a deduction on Sch. C for the health insurance
> > premiums that he/she paid for an employee?


> Yes, that is a legitimate deduction on Schedule C Part II ,
> line 14. You can deduct your own helath insurance premiums
> on 1040 line 29


But if you are a sole proprietor and you work for yourself,
you can't deduct your own health insurance. At least, your
not supposed to the last time I checked.

Stu

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Old 11-14-2003, 03:20 PM
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taxman99[at]aol.com (BigAl) wrote:

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> It's my understanding that health insurance provided by an
> employer is not included in the employees wages and
> therefore no social security taxes and unemployment taxes
> are due.
> Assuming the employer is a sole proprietor, is the employer
> allowed a deduction on Sch. C for the health insurance
> premiums that he/she paid for an employee?


Health care premiums paid by the employer are deductible on
Line 14 of the Schedule C form. It's in the instructions.

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Old 11-14-2003, 02:42 PM
ed
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taxman99[at]aol.com (BigAl) wrote:

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> It's my understanding that health insurance provided by an
> employer is not included in the employees wages and
> therefore no social security taxes and unemployment taxes
> are due.
> Assuming the employer is a sole proprietor, is the employer
> allowed a deduction on Sch. C for the health insurance
> premiums that he/she paid for an employee?


Yes, that is a legitimate deduction on Schedule C Part II ,
line 14. You can deduct your own helath insurance premiums
on 1040 line 29 ED

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Old 11-14-2003, 02:23 PM
ed
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taxman99[at]aol.com (BigAl) wrote:

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> It's my understanding that health insurance provided by an
> employer is not included in the employees wages and
> therefore no social security taxes and unemployment taxes
> are due.
> Assuming the employer is a sole proprietor, is the employer
> allowed a deduction on Sch. C for the health insurance
> premiums that he/she paid for an employee?


Yes, that is a legitimate deduction on Schedule C Part II ,
line 14. You can deduct your own helath insurance premiums
on 1040 line 29

ED

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Old 11-13-2003, 07:30 PM
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Default Deducting health insurance paid by employer.

It's my understanding that health insurance provided by an
employer is not included in the employees wages and
therefore no social security taxes and unemployment taxes
are due.

Assuming the employer is a sole proprietor, is the employer
allowed a deduction on Sch. C for the health insurance
premiums that he/she paid for an employee?

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