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Old 10-22-2003, 03:37 AM
Barry Picker
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Default Re: Help: didn't take RMD from inherited IRAs


- quote -

> > This election must also be taken by the December 31, 2003,
> > according to the publication. I DON'T know if the deadline
> > was extended by a recent change in law.


> That '03 deadline is the latest info in the '02 Pub 590. If
> there has been an extension, someone please post it here.
> Thanks.


No extension, at least as of yet.

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Old 10-20-2003, 12:53 AM
HW \Skip\ Weldon
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Default Re: Help: didn't take RMD from inherited IRAs

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> > If you do so before the end of the fifth year, you can
> > change your mind and elect to take RMD withdrawals over
> > your life expectancy, befinning with your age in the
> > year following the decedent's death. Pub 590 (pages
> > 30-32) has the details of how to do this.


> This election must also be taken by the December 31, 2003,
> according to the publication. I DON'T know if the deadline
> was extended by a recent change in law.


That '03 deadline is the latest info in the '02 Pub 590. If
there has been an extension, someone please post it here.
Thanks.

-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

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Old 10-18-2003, 06:53 AM
Arthur L. Rubin
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Default Re: Help: didn't take RMD from inherited IRAs

Herb Smith wrote:

(Summary of Herb's reply.)

Herb states that OP is required to complete withdrawals
no later than the end of the fifth year, which is
December 31, 2006. He goes on to say:

- quote -

> If you do so before the end of the fifth year, you can
> change your mind and elect to take RMD withdrawals over
> your life expectancy, befinning with your age in the
> year following the decedent's death. Pub 590 (pages
> 30-32) has the details of how to do this.


This election must also be taken by the December 31, 2003,
according to the publication. I DON'T know if the deadline
was extended by a recent change in law.

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Old 10-11-2003, 07:41 AM
Arthur L. Rubin
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Default Re: Help: didn't take RMD from inherited IRAs

Eric Goodill wrote:

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> My mom died in 2001, and I received an inherited
> traditional IRA and an inherited Roth IRA. My mom was 72
> when she died, so she was already being forced to take
> yearly required minimum distributions (RMDs) to drain her
> IRAs (not sure if this applies to both traditional and Roth
> IRA). My understanding is that since she was forced to take
> RMDs, so am I. I further understand that the first withdrawl
> must occur no later that Dec 31 of the calendar year after
> the one she died in. So my mom died in 2001, and I would
> have to have made a withdrawl by Dec 31, 2002.


First, someone had to take HER RMD in 2001. If that wasn't
done penalties apply again. But for your stated question:

- quote -

> 1. Should I just take the 2002 RMD now and report it on my
> 2002 return as if I'd taken it in 2002?


Not an option.

- quote -

> 2. Should I take the 2002 RMD in 2003 and report it on my
> 2003 return? Again are there penalties? I'd also take my
> 2003 RMD during 2003.


50% penalty on the amount of RMD not taken.

- quote -

> 3. Should I just start taking RMDs in 2003 and hope nobody
> notices?


It probably won't work.

- quote -

> Are traditional and Roth IRAs the treated the same regarding
> RMDs?


No.

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Old 10-11-2003, 07:22 AM
Herb Smith
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Default Re: Help: didn't take RMD from inherited IRAs

Eric Goodill <nospam[at]email.com> wrote:

- quote -

> My mom died in 2001, and I received an inherited
> traditional IRA and an inherited Roth IRA. My mom was 72
> when she died, so she was already being forced to take
> yearly required minimum distributions (RMDs) to drain her
> IRAs (not sure if this applies to both traditional and Roth
> IRA). My understanding is that since she was forced to take
> RMDs, so am I. I further understand that the first withdrawl
> must occur no later that Dec 31 of the calendar year after
> the one she died in. So my mom died in 2001, and I would
> have to have made a withdrawl by Dec 31, 2002.
> Well, as you probably guessed, I didn't make the withdrawl,
> but I'm now trying to figure out what to do about it. I'm
> about to file my 2002 tax return (delayed due to late K-1
> information from my mom's estate).
> Some questions:
> 1. Should I just take the 2002 RMD now and report it on my
> 2002 return as if I'd taken it in 2002? Are the any
> penalties that would go along with this for a late
> withdrawl? If so, where can I find how to compute them?
> 2. Should I take the 2002 RMD in 2003 and report it on my
> 2003 return? Again are there penalties? I'd also take my
> 2003 RMD during 2003.
> 3. Should I just start taking RMDs in 2003 and hope nobody
> notices?
> I want to do the right thing, but I'm having trouble finding
> the info I need on handling this.
> Are traditional and Roth IRAs the treated the same regarding
> RMDs?


Relevant information is covered in detail in IRS Pub 590.

1 - As a non-spouse beneficiary of the IRA, you cannot treat
it as your own. Unless you elect otherwise, you must
complete withdrawals no later than the end of the fifth
calendar year after the year of the decedent's death. It
is not necessary to take a withdrawal every year, so you
can wait until the fifth year and withdraw the entire
balance before December 31, 2006.

If you do so before the end of the fifth year, you can
change your mind and elect to take RMD withdrawals over
your life expectancy, befinning with your age in the
year following the decedent's death. Pub 590 (pages
30-32) has the details of how to do this.

2 - See reply 1. The question is moot.

3 - Traditional and Roth IRAs are treated the same after
the owner has died.

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Old 10-11-2003, 06:24 AM
Dave Woods, EA
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Default Re: Help: didn't take RMD from inherited IRAs

"Eric Goodill" <nospam[at]email.com> wrote:

- quote -

> My mom died in 2001, and I received an inherited
> traditional IRA and an inherited Roth IRA. My mom was 72
> when she died, so she was already being forced to take
> yearly required minimum distributions (RMDs) to drain her
> IRAs (not sure if this applies to both traditional and Roth
> IRA). My understanding is that since she was forced to take
> RMDs, so am I. I further understand that the first withdrawl
> must occur no later that Dec 31 of the calendar year after
> the one she died in. So my mom died in 2001, and I would
> have to have made a withdrawl by Dec 31, 2002.
> Well, as you probably guessed, I didn't make the withdrawl,
> but I'm now trying to figure out what to do about it. I'm
> about to file my 2002 tax return (delayed due to late K-1
> information from my mom's estate).
> Some questions:
> 1. Should I just take the 2002 RMD now and report it on my
> 2002 return as if I'd taken it in 2002? Are the any
> penalties that would go along with this for a late
> withdrawl? If so, where can I find how to compute them?
> 2. Should I take the 2002 RMD in 2003 and report it on my
> 2003 return? Again are there penalties? I'd also take my
> 2003 RMD during 2003.
> 3. Should I just start taking RMDs in 2003 and hope nobody
> notices?
> I want to do the right thing, but I'm having trouble finding
> the info I need on handling this.


Take that as a cue you need to hire someone to do it for you.

- quote -

> Are traditional and Roth IRAs the treated the same regarding
> RMDs?


Whatever you take now is 2003 income, the penalty is 50%
(yes thatıs FIFTY) of what the RMD was, and get it done
ASAP.

--
David M. Woods, EA
Boston, MA 02109

Postings here are general information only and not to be
relied upon as advice.

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Old 10-08-2003, 08:33 PM
Eric Goodill
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Default Help: didn't take RMD from inherited IRAs

My mom died in 2001, and I received an inherited
traditional IRA and an inherited Roth IRA. My mom was 72
when she died, so she was already being forced to take
yearly required minimum distributions (RMDs) to drain her
IRAs (not sure if this applies to both traditional and Roth
IRA). My understanding is that since she was forced to take
RMDs, so am I. I further understand that the first withdrawl
must occur no later that Dec 31 of the calendar year after
the one she died in. So my mom died in 2001, and I would
have to have made a withdrawl by Dec 31, 2002.

Well, as you probably guessed, I didn't make the withdrawl,
but I'm now trying to figure out what to do about it. I'm
about to file my 2002 tax return (delayed due to late K-1
information from my mom's estate).

Some questions:

1. Should I just take the 2002 RMD now and report it on my
2002 return as if I'd taken it in 2002? Are the any
penalties that would go along with this for a late
withdrawl? If so, where can I find how to compute them?

2. Should I take the 2002 RMD in 2003 and report it on my
2003 return? Again are there penalties? I'd also take my
2003 RMD during 2003.

3. Should I just start taking RMDs in 2003 and hope nobody
notices?

I want to do the right thing, but I'm having trouble finding
the info I need on handling this.

Are traditional and Roth IRAs the treated the same regarding
RMDs?

Thanks for any help.

-Eric

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