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| - quote - > > I spend an hour a day on a stationary bike at the Y. One
Thanks for the 5 or 6 interesting responses to this> > good solid magazine (Harpers, Atlantic, The Economist, > > Playboy^h^h^h^h^h^h) is just enough to make the hour not too > > unpleasant. > > > If I then leave my magazine behind on the coffee table in > > the gym for others to do likewise, that's a deductible > > donation to the Y of the amount I paid for the magazine, > > right? > I trust this is a question for a tax law course? question. And no, it's not an assignment for a tax law course, it's a factual situation, even if the query was only semi-serious. Hadn't thought about the "acceptance by donee" aspect. Maybe I should ask my local Y to put a magazine rack on the gym wall with a sign that says "Donate Magazines Here". Another Y in the area has such, though without the sign. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "AES/newspost" <siegman[at]stanford.edu> wrote: - quote - > I spend an hour a day on a stationary bike at the Y. One
IRS Regs require a receipt for property donations in any> good solid magazine (Harpers, Atlantic, The Economist, > Playboy^h^h^h^h^h^h) is just enough to make the hour not too > unpleasant. > If I then leave my magazine behind on the coffee table in > the gym for others to do likewise, that's a deductible > donation to the Y of the amount I paid for the magazine, > right? > But I've already read the magazine, you say, so that the > value of my donation is considerably reduced? OK, how about > I donate a particular magazine, brand new and unread, when > I'm in on day N, then read it when I come in on day N+1 or > N+2? amount with limited exception. Even beyond that, you haven't made a donation until the donee has accepted it as such. You have the legal right to return to the YMCA and claim any left behind property, whether magazine or Rolex watch. So if you have dated receipts from the Y, then you can establish value at some discount from newsstand price if current issue. Once it becomes a back issue, IRS can argue its value is that of recyclable trash, depending upon the specific magazine. It's hard to compete with a public library or publishers who post articles from back issues on web sites. Fred F. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| AES/newspost <siegman[at]stanford.edu> wrote: - quote - > I spend an hour a day on a stationary bike at the Y. One
I doubt it. When you contribute property to charity, you> good solid magazine (Harpers, Atlantic, The Economist, > Playboy^h^h^h^h^h^h) is just enough to make the hour not too > unpleasant. > If I then leave my magazine behind on the coffee table in > the gym for others to do likewise, that's a deductible > donation to the Y of the amount I paid for the magazine, > right? can deduct the Fair Market Value of the property. That's the amount you could get if you resold the property on the open market. And in general, used books and magazines sell for significantly less than their original purchase prices, unless they're collectibles (e.g. first editions, books signed by the author, etc.). Furthermore, I doubt that just leaving something laying around would be considered "donating" it to the organization. It's more like litter. If you dropped your wallet in the locker room, would you really try to take a deduction for the cash that was in it? Maybe if the gym has a little library of books and magazines for patrons to use, and you actively handed your magazine to the person who organizes it, you might be able to consider it a donation. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Level(3) Communications, Woburn, MA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| AES/newspost <siegman[at]stanford.edu> wrote: - quote - > I spend an hour a day on a stationary bike at the Y. One
The charitible organization would need to accept the> good solid magazine (Harpers, Atlantic, The Economist, > Playboy^h^h^h^h^h^h) is just enough to make the hour not too > unpleasant. > If I then leave my magazine behind on the coffee table in > the gym for others to do likewise, that's a deductible > donation to the Y of the amount I paid for the magazine, > right? > But I've already read the magazine, you say, so that the > value of my donation is considerably reduced? OK, how about > I donate a particular magazine, brand new and unread, when > I'm in on day N, then read it when I come in on day N+1 or > N+2? (knowing when I make the donation that another > exerciser may snitch it and take it home before then, as > does sometimes happen) charitible gift. In other words, you can't give a gift if the other party does not accept it. And then there's the matter of proof. Although you have not reached the $250 requirement for a receipt, you have no proof without receipts. The fair market value of a used magazine isn't much, and claiming it was unread and therefore brand new is difficult to prove for a magazine. You might have been a careful reader. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| AES/newspost wrote: - quote - > I spend an hour a day on a stationary bike at the Y. One
I can see you've done your homework on this issue. You're> good solid magazine (Harpers, Atlantic, The Economist, > Playboy^h^h^h^h^h^h) is just enough to make the hour not too > unpleasant. > If I then leave my magazine behind on the coffee table in > the gym for others to do likewise, that's a deductible > donation to the Y of the amount I paid for the magazine, > right? > But I've already read the magazine, you say, so that the > value of my donation is considerably reduced? OK, how about > I donate a particular magazine, brand new and unread, when > I'm in on day N, then read it when I come in on day N+1 or > N+2? (knowing when I make the donation that another > exerciser may snitch it and take it home before then, as > does sometimes happen) right on the money. (Money; my favorite hobby magazine) just be sure to keep receipts for the magazines. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I spend an hour a day on a stationary bike at the Y. One
I trust this is a question for a tax law course?> good solid magazine (Harpers, Atlantic, The Economist, > Playboy^h^h^h^h^h^h) is just enough to make the hour not too > unpleasant. > If I then leave my magazine behind on the coffee table in > the gym for others to do likewise, that's a deductible > donation to the Y of the amount I paid for the magazine, > right? > But I've already read the magazine, you say, so that the > value of my donation is considerably reduced? OK, how about > I donate a particular magazine, brand new and unread, when > I'm in on day N, then read it when I come in on day N+1 or > N+2? (knowing when I make the donation that another > exerciser may snitch it and take it home before then, as > does sometimes happen) I agree with your logic, and I would even argue that the FMV of the magazine if still a current issue is still its current price, undiminished by having been read once--unless you left sticky finger prints inside Playboy. HOWEVER, the technical flaw in all this might be that to merely leave a gift in the lobby of a 501c3 that is not "accepted" in some form by the 501c3 does not constitute a gift. Now if the 501c3 has a box for donations you might have a different point. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I spend an hour a day on a stationary bike at the Y. One good solid magazine (Harpers, Atlantic, The Economist, Playboy^h^h^h^h^h^h) is just enough to make the hour not too unpleasant. If I then leave my magazine behind on the coffee table in the gym for others to do likewise, that's a deductible donation to the Y of the amount I paid for the magazine, right? But I've already read the magazine, you say, so that the value of my donation is considerably reduced? OK, how about I donate a particular magazine, brand new and unread, when I'm in on day N, then read it when I come in on day N+1 or N+2? (knowing when I make the donation that another exerciser may snitch it and take it home before then, as does sometimes happen) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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