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 Re: Texas veh. registration - quote - > That is when it pays to know high profile columnists in the > prominent newspapers......<G Does the NY times count? -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-18-2003, 02:29 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration - quote - > > > > What does that have to do with charging sales tax on an item
Frederick,> > > > someone purchased and owned and paid sales tax to in their > > > > former state of residence? > > > Generally all states need income to provide basic services. > > > If one form of taxation is not used by a state then some > > > other form must be either increased or substituted to get > > > at the needed income. Just compare the TX Corporation taxes > > > with those in Virginia. An other tack is to tweak the use > > > and sales taxes exemptions, etc. In the example given it > > > looks like Texas compares the tax paid previously on the > > > vehicle out of state with the tax that would have been paid > > > if purchased in TX. If you previously paid less then you pay > > > the difference. In no way am I in favor of any tax or the > > > particular result in this case. But these things do not > > > happen in a vacuum. > > Again, by what logic (not to mention legal principal) can > > they possibly employ to impose a sales or use tax on > > property acquired outside the state by a non-resident? That > > IS what this is. > I think they say this would apply to those who elect to > bring in a vehicle when they intend to become a resident. > The legality of a tax is a very expensive way to fight a > tax. Most folks just pay and go on with their lives. You > can try to fight administratively but eventually you have to > go to court to fight a tax this way. As one who has to deal > with local tax authorities who have NEVER provided copies of > local tax regulations when requested. When told these folks > that their tax form was in violation of a recent Virginia > Supreme Court decision I was told the only way they would > change it was if they were taken to court. That is when it pays to know high profile columnists in the prominent newspapers......<G -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-13-2003, 05:09 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration - quote - > > > What does that have to do with charging sales tax on an item
I think they say this would apply to those who elect to> > > someone purchased and owned and paid sales tax to in their > > > former state of residence? > > Generally all states need income to provide basic services. > > If one form of taxation is not used by a state then some > > other form must be either increased or substituted to get > > at the needed income. Just compare the TX Corporation taxes > > with those in Virginia. An other tack is to tweak the use > > and sales taxes exemptions, etc. In the example given it > > looks like Texas compares the tax paid previously on the > > vehicle out of state with the tax that would have been paid > > if purchased in TX. If you previously paid less then you pay > > the difference. In no way am I in favor of any tax or the > > particular result in this case. But these things do not > > happen in a vacuum. > Again, by what logic (not to mention legal principal) can > they possibly employ to impose a sales or use tax on > property acquired outside the state by a non-resident? That > IS what this is. bring in a vehicle when they intend to become a resident. The legality of a tax is a very expensive way to fight a tax. Most folks just pay and go on with their lives. You can try to fight administratively but eventually you have to go to court to fight a tax this way. As one who has to deal with local tax authorities who have NEVER provided copies of local tax regulations when requested. When told these folks that their tax form was in violation of a recent Virginia Supreme Court decision I was told the only way they would change it was if they were taken to court. -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-13-2003, 05:09 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration - quote - > > > What does that have to do with charging sales tax on an item
I mentioned in a response to another post by you in this thread,> > > someone purchased and owned and paid sales tax to in their > > > former state of residence? > > Generally all states need income to provide basic services. > > If one form of taxation is not used by a state then some > > other form must be either increased or substituted to get > > at the needed income. Just compare the TX Corporation taxes > > with those in Virginia. An other tack is to tweak the use > > and sales taxes exemptions, etc. In the example given it > > looks like Texas compares the tax paid previously on the > > vehicle out of state with the tax that would have been paid > > if purchased in TX. If you previously paid less then you pay > > the difference. In no way am I in favor of any tax or the > > particular result in this case. But these things do not > > happen in a vacuum. > Again, by what logic (not to mention legal principal) can > they possibly employ to impose a sales or use tax on > property acquired outside the state by a non-resident? That > IS what this is. that the $90 charge is not a sales tax. Every new resident of Texas who applies for a Texas Certificate of Title when they register their vehicles will be charged a $90 new resident tax. If the vehicle was registered in another state, no sales or use tax is collected by Texas. If the vehicle was not registered in another state, then Texas will collect the sales/use tax and will give a credit for any sales tax paid to another state where the car was purchased but not registered. The source of the above information is the Texas Dept. of Transportation. Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-11-2003, 06:43 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration - quote - > > What does that have to do with charging sales tax on an item
Again, by what logic (not to mention legal principal) can> > someone purchased and owned and paid sales tax to in their > > former state of residence? > Generally all states need income to provide basic services. > If one form of taxation is not used by a state then some > other form must be either increased or substituted to get > at the needed income. Just compare the TX Corporation taxes > with those in Virginia. An other tack is to tweak the use > and sales taxes exemptions, etc. In the example given it > looks like Texas compares the tax paid previously on the > vehicle out of state with the tax that would have been paid > if purchased in TX. If you previously paid less then you pay > the difference. In no way am I in favor of any tax or the > particular result in this case. But these things do not > happen in a vacuum. they possibly employ to impose a sales or use tax on property acquired outside the state by a non-resident? That IS what this is. -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-11-2003, 06:05 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration "Christopher Green" <cj.green[at]worldnet.att.net> wrote: - quote - > "Dave Woods, EA" <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote:
Then why is there apparently no provision of offset for the> [snip] > > What does that have to do with charging sales tax on an item > > someone purchased and owned and paid sales tax to in their > > former state of residence? > Use tax. The legalism is that it's a tax on the privilege of > using property within the state. (When this tax is paid by a > seller and collected from the buyer, it is called sales tax > instead.) Not all states charge use tax on used vehicles > brought into the state, but some do. sales tax that was paid in the former state? -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-08-2003, 08:33 PM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration - quote - > > > > I moved to Texas in July, and paid $184.80 to register
Generally all states need income to provide basic services.> > > > my vehicle. Are any of the fees deductible? They are: > > > > Title application fee: $ 13 > > > > Sales Tax Fee: 90 > > > > Windshield sticker: 50.50 > > > > County Road Bridge add-on fee: 10 > > > > Automation Fee: 1 > > > > Reflectorization fee: 0.30 > > > > Sales Tax emissions fee: 20 > > > > > > > I also paid $98 to California to register the vehicle prior to > > > > moving. I know the license fee is deductible for California. > > > The answer is no. My question for you and anyone else in > > > Texas: I assume you purchased this vehicle in CA when you > > > lived there. Why on earth is Texas charging a sales tax fee > > > on property purchased and used while you were a CA resident? > > They do not have an income Tax. > What does that have to do with charging sales tax on an item > someone purchased and owned and paid sales tax to in their > former state of residence? If one form of taxation is not used by a state then some other form must be either increased or substituted to get at the needed income. Just compare the TX Corporation taxes with those in Virginia. An other tack is to tweak the use and sales taxes exemptions, etc. In the example given it looks like Texas compares the tax paid previously on the vehicle out of state with the tax that would have been paid if purchased in TX. If you previously paid less then you pay the difference. In no way am I in favor of any tax or the particular result in this case. But these things do not happen in a vacuum. -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-06-2003, 11:18 PM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration "Dave Woods, EA" <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote: [snip] - quote - > What does that have to do with charging sales tax on an item
Use tax. The legalism is that it's a tax on the privilege of> someone purchased and owned and paid sales tax to in their > former state of residence? using property within the state. (When this tax is paid by a seller and collected from the buyer, it is called sales tax instead.) Not all states charge use tax on used vehicles brought into the state, but some do. -- Chris Green << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-06-2003, 11:18 PM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration - quote - > > > The answer is no. My question for you and anyone else in
Not a Texas resident, but....> > > Texas: I assume you purchased this vehicle in CA when you > > > lived there. Why on earth is Texas charging a sales tax fee > > > on property purchased and used while you were a CA resident? > > This is just one of the joys of not having a state income > > tax. Our elected buffoons find other ways to make up the > > difference. If you move into the state, you have to get > > Texas license plates. To do that, you have to pay Texas > > sales tax. > > > I didn't say it makes sense, I just said we have to do it. > Is the sales tax on the purchase of the vehicle or on the > "purchase" of the plates and registration. If on the > vehicle, why has nobody challenged the constitutionality? > Under this reasoning, anything you own could be subject to > sales tax when becoming a Texas resident. If on the > registration, well just like a government to charge tax on > its OWN services..... The $90 charge is not a % of value. The $90 charge is a fixed amount for new residents who register their vehicles for the first time in the state. Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-05-2003, 10:12 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration - quote - > > The answer is no. My question for you and anyone else in
Is the sales tax on the purchase of the vehicle or on the> > Texas: I assume you purchased this vehicle in CA when you > > lived there. Why on earth is Texas charging a sales tax fee > > on property purchased and used while you were a CA resident? > This is just one of the joys of not having a state income > tax. Our elected buffoons find other ways to make up the > difference. If you move into the state, you have to get > Texas license plates. To do that, you have to pay Texas > sales tax. > I didn't say it makes sense, I just said we have to do it. "purchase" of the plates and registration. If on the vehicle, why has nobody challenged the constitutionality? Under this reasoning, anything you own could be subject to sales tax when becoming a Texas resident. If on the registration, well just like a government to charge tax on its OWN services..... -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-05-2003, 10:12 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration - quote - > > > I moved to Texas in July, and paid $184.80 to register
Frederick,> > > my vehicle. Are any of the fees deductible? They are: > > > Title application fee: $ 13 > > > Sales Tax Fee: 90 > > > Windshield sticker: 50.50 > > > County Road Bridge add-on fee: 10 > > > Automation Fee: 1 > > > Reflectorization fee: 0.30 > > > Sales Tax emissions fee: 20 > > > > > I also paid $98 to California to register the vehicle prior to > > > moving. I know the license fee is deductible for California. > > The answer is no. My question for you and anyone else in > > Texas: I assume you purchased this vehicle in CA when you > > lived there. Why on earth is Texas charging a sales tax fee > > on property purchased and used while you were a CA resident? > They do not have an income Tax. What does that have to do with charging sales tax on an item someone purchased and owned and paid sales tax to in their former state of residence? -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-03-2003, 06:33 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration "Roger R" <jayray29remove[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > "Joan Kaapke" <joan_kaapke[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
No, since no part of the fee is ad valorum.> > I moved to Texas in July, and paid $184.80 to register > > my vehicle. Are any of the fees deductible? They are: > > Title application fee: $ 13 > > Sales Tax Fee: 90 > > Windshield sticker: 50.50 > > County Road Bridge add-on fee: 10 > > Automation Fee: 1 > > Reflectorization fee: 0.30 > > Sales Tax emissions fee: 20 > > > I also paid $98 to California to register the vehicle prior to > > moving. I know the license fee is deductible for California. > I assume that you mean "...for California." ~income tax~. > Since there is no state income tax here in the great state > of Texas, no. It is not deductible. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-03-2003, 05:55 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration "Dave Woods, EA" <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "Joan Kaapke" <joan_kaapke[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
This is just one of the joys of not having a state income> The answer is no. My question for you and anyone else in > Texas: I assume you purchased this vehicle in CA when you > lived there. Why on earth is Texas charging a sales tax fee > on property purchased and used while you were a CA resident? tax. Our elected buffoons find other ways to make up the difference. If you move into the state, you have to get Texas license plates. To do that, you have to pay Texas sales tax. I didn't say it makes sense, I just said we have to do it. Joel Berry, CPA Sugar Land, Texas << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-03-2003, 05:36 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration Dave Woods, EA" <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "Joan Kaapke" <joan_kaapke[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
Darn good question. Why does NC do the same? Of course we> > I moved to Texas in July, and paid $184.80 to register > > my vehicle. Are any of the fees deductible? They are: > > Title application fee: $ 13 > > Sales Tax Fee: 90 > > Windshield sticker: 50.50 > > County Road Bridge add-on fee: 10 > > Automation Fee: 1 > > Reflectorization fee: 0.30 > > Sales Tax emissions fee: 20 > > > I also paid $98 to California to register the vehicle prior to > > moving. I know the license fee is deductible for California. > The answer is no. My question for you and anyone else in > Texas: I assume you purchased this vehicle in CA when you > lived there. Why on earth is Texas charging a sales tax fee > on property purchased and used while you were a CA resident? call it a "road use tax." Drew Edmundson, CPA (NC) e-mail is my first name at nccpa dot com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-03-2003, 05:36 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration - quote - > I also paid $98 to California to register the vehicle prior to
The "property tax" portion of annual registration is> moving. I know the license fee is deductible for California. deductible if you itemize on Schedule A. "Fees" in general are not deductible. Most fee invoices should identify the property tax portion. Your Texas invoice description doesnt have a property tax item. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-03-2003, 05:17 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration "Joan Kaapke" <joan_kaapke[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I moved to Texas in July, and paid $184.80 to register
CA fees are based partially on value and are considered> my vehicle. Are any of the fees deductible? They are: > Title application fee: $ 13 > Sales Tax Fee: 90 > Windshield sticker: 50.50 > County Road Bridge add-on fee: 10 > Automation Fee: 1 > Reflectorization fee: 0.30 > Sales Tax emissions fee: 20 > I also paid $98 to California to register the vehicle prior to > moving. I know the license fee is deductible for California. property tax to that extent and are deductible on Sch A. TX fees are based on weight of the vehicle and are not deductible. Sales taxes are not deductible in any state which discriminates against high sales tax states such as Texas. (Govt must want us to pay state income tax instead.) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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10-03-2003, 05:17 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration Dave Woods, EA wrote: - quote - > "Joan Kaapke" <joan_kaapke[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
They do not have an income Tax.> > I moved to Texas in July, and paid $184.80 to register > > my vehicle. Are any of the fees deductible? They are: > > Title application fee: $ 13 > > Sales Tax Fee: 90 > > Windshield sticker: 50.50 > > County Road Bridge add-on fee: 10 > > Automation Fee: 1 > > Reflectorization fee: 0.30 > > Sales Tax emissions fee: 20 > > > I also paid $98 to California to register the vehicle prior to > > moving. I know the license fee is deductible for California. > The answer is no. My question for you and anyone else in > Texas: I assume you purchased this vehicle in CA when you > lived there. Why on earth is Texas charging a sales tax fee > on property purchased and used while you were a CA resident? -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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09-30-2003, 06:15 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration "Joan Kaapke" <joan_kaapke[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I moved to Texas in July, and paid $184.80 to register
The only thing that's deductible on federal taxes are> my vehicle. Are any of the fees deductible? They are: > Title application fee: $ 13 > Sales Tax Fee: 90 > Windshield sticker: 50.50 > County Road Bridge add-on fee: 10 > Automation Fee: 1 > Reflectorization fee: 0.30 > Sales Tax emissions fee: 20 > I also paid $98 to California to register the vehicle prior to > moving. I know the license fee is deductible for California. personal property taxes. This is an annual tax that's based on a percentage of the property's value. For cars this is often called an excise tax. A one-time registration fee doesn't fit this criteria, so it's not deductible. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Level(3) Communications, Woburn, MA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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09-30-2003, 06:15 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration "Joan Kaapke" <joan_kaapke[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I moved to Texas in July, and paid $184.80 to register
I assume that you mean "...for California." ~income tax~.> my vehicle. Are any of the fees deductible? They are: > Title application fee: $ 13 > Sales Tax Fee: 90 > Windshield sticker: 50.50 > County Road Bridge add-on fee: 10 > Automation Fee: 1 > Reflectorization fee: 0.30 > Sales Tax emissions fee: 20 > I also paid $98 to California to register the vehicle prior to > moving. I know the license fee is deductible for California. Since there is no state income tax here in the great state of Texas, no. It is not deductible. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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09-30-2003, 06:15 AM
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| Re: Texas veh. registration "Joan Kaapke" <joan_kaapke[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I moved to Texas in July, and paid $184.80 to register
The answer is no. My question for you and anyone else in> my vehicle. Are any of the fees deductible? They are: > Title application fee: $ 13 > Sales Tax Fee: 90 > Windshield sticker: 50.50 > County Road Bridge add-on fee: 10 > Automation Fee: 1 > Reflectorization fee: 0.30 > Sales Tax emissions fee: 20 > I also paid $98 to California to register the vehicle prior to > moving. I know the license fee is deductible for California. Texas: I assume you purchased this vehicle in CA when you lived there. Why on earth is Texas charging a sales tax fee on property purchased and used while you were a CA resident? -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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