|
#4
| |||
| |||
| Paul A. Thomas wrote: - quote - > "Raymond" <raymond912002[at]yahoo.com> wrote
(snipped)- quote - > > Can you use a paperless register and write down the daily
Used to be, there were two methods of accounting: (come to> > sales in a ledger book without supporting documentation ? > Lots of business do that. > As long as there is sufficient information to tie back to > the deposits, which should tie back to your sales reported. think of it, there still are.) the shoe box method, and the shorter cigar box method. (I like cigar boxes; they're sturdier; however with shoe boxes, at least the roaches that get in can also get out) One of my clients uses a variation; the Federal Express cardboard envelope method. AT least everything is organized in months, though. and no further. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#3
| |||
| |||
| Fred Fillinger wrote: - quote - > Raymond wrote:
"..... THE FINER POINTS OF ADEQUATE RECORDS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY> > Regarding cash register receits: > > Does the IRS require a single(intact) register receit for > > each day or can you staple together 50 different receits > > from one register that would be the day's sales ? > > > Can you use a paperless register and write down the daily > > sales in a ledger book without supporting documentation ? > IRS doesn't require anything specific here. The Regulations > nebulously state that a t/p "shall keep such permanent books > of account or records, including inventories, as are > sufficient to establish the amount of gross income, > deductions, credits,...." IRS well knows that, for > self-employed t/p's or those operating through corporations > they control, there is no system of records which, prima > facie, can assure that all income has been reported. There > are a number of ways that receipts can bypass a pile of > register tapes if a t/p is so inclined. Accordingly, and > while really bad records are not a good idea, the finer > points of adequate records are substantially irrelevant to > an IRS examination. Record should be designed primarily for > the needs of the business. IRRELEVANT TO AN IRS EXAMINATION!" I LOVE IT!. Well said, Fred. (with reference to what many laymen don't know about, methods of "reconstruction" and I ain't whistling Dixie. Any time I have a new accounting client in a business like a restaurant, I try to cover what's in the MSSP... MSSRP? relating to that industry. Those are really nice guides. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#2
| |||
| |||
| "Raymond" <raymond912002[at]yahoo.com> wrote - quote - > Regarding cash register receits:
Probably either is sufficient. In many stores though, the> Does the IRS require a single(intact) register receit for > each day or can you staple together 50 different receits > from one register that would be the day's sales ? register retains one copy and the top copy goes to the customer. In addition, you can and should keep the "Z" totals from each register. - quote - > Can you use a paperless register and write down the daily
Lots of business do that.> sales in a ledger book without supporting documentation ? As long as there is sufficient information to tie back to the deposits, which should tie back to your sales reported. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA taxman[at]negia.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#1
| |||
| |||
| "Raymond" <raymond912002[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Regarding cash register receits:
The better your documentation with the least ability be> Does the IRS require a single(intact) register receit for > each day or can you staple together 50 different receits > from one register that would be the day's sales ? > Can you use a paperless register and write down the daily > sales in a ledger book without supporting documentation ? altered, the better your numbers will stand up to an audit. If you have choices, protect yourself with non-disputable hard records. This may not be the easiest nor require the least amount of space to archive nor kill the fewest number of trees, but you will have proof if needed. You didn't ask, but in my opinion, keep these records in a very organized filing system. There are several governmental agencies who may audit your records. It is very time consuming to try to "get it all together" when required to do so. A great filing system can mean that you are always ready for an auditor. The auditor will appreciate it and the audit will be easier on everyone. -- Sincerely, Joanne << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
| | |||
| |||
| Raymond wrote: - quote - > Regarding cash register receits:
IRS doesn't require anything specific here. The Regulations> Does the IRS require a single(intact) register receit for > each day or can you staple together 50 different receits > from one register that would be the day's sales ? > Can you use a paperless register and write down the daily > sales in a ledger book without supporting documentation ? nebulously state that a t/p "shall keep such permanent books of account or records, including inventories, as are sufficient to establish the amount of gross income, deductions, credits,...." IRS well knows that, for self-employed t/p's or those operating through corporations they control, there is no system of records which, prima facie, can assure that all income has been reported. There are a number of ways that receipts can bypass a pile of register tapes if a t/p is so inclined. Accordingly, and while really bad records are not a good idea, the finer points of adequate records are substantially irrelevant to an IRS examination. Record should be designed primarily for the needs of the business. F-- << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#-1
| |||
| |||
| Regarding cash register receits: Does the IRS require a single(intact) register receit for each day or can you staple together 50 different receits from one register that would be the day's sales ? Can you use a paperless register and write down the daily sales in a ledger book without supporting documentation ? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
| Tags |
| general, irs, question, restaurant, retail |
Similar Threads | ||||
| Thread | Forum | Replies | Last Post | |
| general money 2006 question Jana: I was wondering if you can go backwards, kind of like with windows. I vaguely remember restoring my computer to a particular date (this was also a... | Microsoft Money | 1 | 07-03-2008 04:13 PM | |
| General Question About Accounts craigw79: This may sound very dumb but I am having a problem getting my individual accounts to balance. For example, I purchased textbooks for $100, but... | Microsoft Money | 3 | 09-11-2007 04:10 AM | |
| Splitting bills on Credit Cards (restaurant, etc) Nige: I have the common situation where myself and some friends would go out to dinner. Normally we cannot split the bill, so one of us uses our credit... | Microsoft Money | 1 | 03-01-2004 03:43 AM | |
| MS Money General Question Michael: Hello, I am trying to keep track of my cash transactions on Money 2000. I have been recording my cash withdrawals each month and with each... | Microsoft Money | 3 | 01-12-2004 12:54 PM | |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
| |