"Michael T Wing CPA" <mtwingcpa[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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I'd use a prior year extension form.

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"Michael T Wing CPA" <mtwingcpa[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

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That's a dilemma I've faced before. I've always waited
until the proper forms were issued and used them.

"Gene E. Utterback, EA" <eagent[at]alliancetax.com> wrote:

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If I decide to file early, or late under MTW's argument
above <G> , I might try this.

"Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsfordns[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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That's why I've never tried to file before the correct forms
were issued in their final form.

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I've got a couple of old high school buddies who shared an
apartment when we were in our early twenties. We called
them Felix and Oscar. Never could figure out how they
avoided killing each other...

Joel Berry, CPA
Sugar Land, Texas

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"Joel Berry, CPA" <joelDELETE[at]sugarlandcpas.com> wrote:

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I think a short year C-corp uses last years forms, or maybe
that's only fiscal year corps. Anyway, I saw a IRS
directive on how to handle some odd situations that come up
due to the tax law in May and corporations ending mid year
2003. Can't remember but think it was an e-mail about a
week ago. Ed

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Joel Berry, CPA wrote:
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never heard of that being done, and even though final forms
might be available before end of the year (they are), I doubt
that IRS would even process them before January 3rd.

Although I remember one person had his return all ready to
go on December 31st; Felix Unger, whose flat mate, Oscar
Madison, never got his filed until beyond June 15th (old
extension date).

Cheer$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA

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"Joel Berry, CPA" <joelDELETE[at]sugarlandcpas.com> wrote:
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I have filed returns early using last year's form and
marking out the year. I also have attached a detailed cover
letter explaining that the law not only allows this, but
sometimes requires it. I have never had a problem.

Gene E. Utterback, EA

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Gene E. Utterback, EA wrote:

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A short year return with the year entirely contained
within 2003?

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CPA Joel Berry <joelDELETE[at]sugarlandcpas.com> wrote:

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Years ago, when a corporate client "cratered" mid year, I
would prepare the "final" return on the forms from the prior
year with the "year" crossed out and changed as appropriate.
Never had a problem with that, but I'm not sure I'd try it
today.

Isn't there also a potential filing deadline issue here? If
a calendar year corporation terminates operations on June
30th, wouldn't that final return be (arguably) due September
15th??? But, no forms...

MTW

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"Gene E. Utterback, EA" <eagent[at]alliancetax.com> wrote:

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I'm curious to know if anyone has ever filed using the draft
forms and, if so, what the result was. I have a client who
closed his business earlier this year and dissolved his C
corporation. He wants to file his return ASAP, but I told
him it would be late this year before the forms are
available. I plan to wait for the final forms, but am
curious.

Joel Berry, CPA
Sugar Land, Texas

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The IRS releases tax forms for the subsequent year around
Oct 1, unless Congress changes the tax law in the last
three months.

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Matt Slay wrote:

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See that little "search" box , top upper left? Do a search
for "draft forms".

Cheer$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA

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"Matt Slay" <mattslay[at]charter.net> wrote:

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The IRS does not usually release next year's forms until
November of this year. And then, these are only advance
proofs.

May we ask why you need the 2003 forms in September?

Gene E. Utterback, EA

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"Matt Slay" <mattslay[at]charter.net> wrote:

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You can get Draft copies of the 2003 forms by going to
www.irs.gov .
next click on Tax Professionals
next click on More Topics
finally click on Draft Tax Forms

hope this helps
Linwood Fordham EA

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You have to look at the draft forms. Dig around the tax
professionals area and you should find them.

Helen, EA in PA
Member of The Tax Gang
President, PA Society of Enrolled Agents
Campaigning for NAEA Board of Directors - Looking for YOUR vote

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"Matt Slay" <mattslay[at]charter.net> wrote:

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You didn't look hard enough. Enter "draft" as a search term
and you will be taken to the current list of DRAFT forms for
2003. Be wary, as these are not ready for filing yet, just
comment.

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Matt Slay wrote:

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Matt they are not out yet.

Missy

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"Matt Slay" <mattslay[at]charter.net> wrote:

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The final version of the 2003 Form 1040 won't be released
for several more weeks, probably in October or November. A
draft copy is available at:

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/d1040.pdf

Draft copies of other 2003 forms are available in the same
directory as the 2003 Form 1040.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/

You'll find draft copies of numerous 2003 forms, but no
instructions are posted.

Barney Byrd

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2003 forms probably are not yet available. I attend tax
seminars each November and we generally have the proofs
available at that time.

Carol

If you awoke to find yourself a success, you weren't asleep.
Semper Gumby (Always Flexible)

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"Matt Slay" <mattslay[at]charter.net> wrote:

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Might be because they haven't been made yet......

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Where can I find the 2003 form 1040 and other 2003 forms?

I looked at www.irs.gov, but they onlt have the 2002 forms.

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