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| "Ed Zollars, CPA" <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote: - quote - > Austin K. Williams wrote:
Dear Ed,> > The issue is not how to turn OE on its head (it CANNOT be > > done, by the way) but rather how to get you, your software > > and your posting guidelines into a top-posting mode. > The best approach is to simply *snip out* anything not > directly relevant to your post. That is, you don't top post > or bottom post, but rather *inline* post your reply. > Your argument for top posting is primarily an argument for > not including any of the text--after the 14th time I don't > think I need to be reminded of the initial question--or, > even better, the *entire* thread. > As another post noted, top posters seem to almost *never* > edit out the excess. > Back in the "good old days" <grin> a number of groups had > standards that would reject any post that had more quoted > lines than original text. It's still a good rule of > thumb--if you have more quoted than original text, it's time > to edit out the excess. Your mind's not right<g> . There are two main modes of thread reading - Scan and Review. When scanning, there can be no argument that top-posting is simply more efficient at transferring the information contained within a thread from posters to readers. Original question posted with all responses either at the top for immediate access in readers' preview panes or noted to be inline. As far as your admonishments to snip, let's look at that issue. You folks are pros, right? You time is valuable, right? Bandwidth is cheap, right? Why should you be required to perform a mundane chore like snipping messages just to post your response? I would much rather you "waste" a couple hundred bytes of redundant text than reduce the quality and especially the quantity of your professional judgment on the issues raised. In the real world, you (meaning the vast majority of MTM posters), do not snip as you rightly see it as a waste of your time. You therefore push the inefficiency of bottom-posting onto readers. This is clearly a suboptimal solution. In Review mode, specific thread entries are archived for later access. When content in this mode is subjected to significant snipping, a great deal of context is lost, making both the (snipped) question and the response appear muddled or even incomprehensible. Also, as someone else pointed out, it is important to have a complete record of what was said on both sides if the message is to be archived. The object of this group is the exchange of information. Top-posting maximizes the velocity of info exchange while retaining the "record" for posterity at the cost of an insignificant amount of bandwidth. A single graphic on a website would cover all the redundant quoting on this group for a week! Your prescription for bottom-posting belongs to another era - one focused on minimizing connect time and the amount of data transfer. We are beyond that era and it is long past time that you and Mr. Adams re-evaluate your positions. I'm confident that, given fair consideration, you will conclude an upgrade to top-posting is in order. Then, your mind will be right. Austin << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I think top-posting is vulgar. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Ed Zollars, CPA" <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote: - quote - > Back in the "good old days" <grin> a number of groups had
Yes -- that was/is a VERY good rule. (Maybe with a "floor",> standards that would reject any post that had more quoted > lines than original text. It's still a good rule of > thumb--if you have more quoted than original text, it's time > to edit out the excess. allowing a half-screen's worth of quoted material to set the stage, before the quoted-to-original ratio starts being applied.) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Austin K. Williams wrote: - quote - > The issue is not how to turn OE on its head (it CANNOT be
The best approach is to simply *snip out* anything not> done, by the way) but rather how to get you, your software > and your posting guidelines into a top-posting mode. directly relevant to your post. That is, you don't top post or bottom post, but rather *inline* post your reply. Your argument for top posting is primarily an argument for not including any of the text--after the 14th time I don't think I need to be reminded of the initial question--or, even better, the *entire* thread. As another post noted, top posters seem to almost *never* edit out the excess. Back in the "good old days" <grin> a number of groups had standards that would reject any post that had more quoted lines than original text. It's still a good rule of thumb--if you have more quoted than original text, it's time to edit out the excess. -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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