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| Barry Margolin <barmar[at]alum.mit.edu> wrote: - quote - > "Whit Matteson" <whit_mattesonAT[at]attDOT.net> wrote:
For short sales it is the sales date, which is the opening> > When a preparer charges by the line for filling out Schedule > > D, the client may ask if he can't just bundle a bunch of > > transactions into one, use a generic description like > > "Stocks:, "Various" for the dates, and use totals for sales > > price and basis. > I'm not a pro, but my understanding is that "Various" is > only allowed for the purchase date, not the sales date. The transaction date. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Whit Matteson" <whit_mattesonAT[at]attDOT.net> wrote: - quote - > When a preparer charges by the line for filling out Schedule
I'm not a pro, but my understanding is that "Various" is> D, the client may ask if he can't just bundle a bunch of > transactions into one, use a generic description like > "Stocks:, "Various" for the dates, and use totals for sales > price and basis. only allowed for the purchase date, not the sales date. The IRS gets copies of the 1099-B when you sell, and presumably wants to be able to match these up against the dates on Schedule D. Since they don't get notified at purchase time, they don't care about this because they have nothing to compare it to. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Level(3) Communications, Woburn, MA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Whit Matteson <whit_mattesonAT[at]attDOT.net> wrote: - quote - > When a preparer charges by the line for filling out Schedule
I don't do this so I can't say.> D, the client may ask if he can't just bundle a bunch of > transactions into one, use a generic description like > "Stocks:, "Various" for the dates, and use totals for sales > price and basis. Assuming this is done correctly, > separating short-term and long-term gains, and so on, the > amount of tax due will be correctly computed. Preparers who > do this say they have never had it challenged. I have used broker-supplied or client-supplied spreadsheets which have the same Look & Feel of a schedule D/D-1 and attach them to the return (and do not efile.) But each closing transaction is shown. - quote - > I don't think this is what the IRS intended, but I can't
Various should be used only for the opening transaction date.> find a clear, specific prohibition against doing it. On the > other hand, there is not even a hint in anything I could > find that suggests it's permissible. One could argue that > the format of Schedule D is only designed this way to make > it more convenient for the preparer to compute the correct > amounts. > Can anyone point to language other than the Schedule D > instructions "Enter all sales and exchanges of capital > assets, including stocks, bonds, etc., and real estate..." > that I could point to as requiring listing one sale per > line? I can infer it from the fact that Schedule D-1 > exists, or from the fact that "Various" is only mentioned as > being valid in column d, but I was hoping for something more > concrete. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| When a preparer charges by the line for filling out Schedule D, the client may ask if he can't just bundle a bunch of transactions into one, use a generic description like "Stocks:, "Various" for the dates, and use totals for sales price and basis. Assuming this is done correctly, separating short-term and long-term gains, and so on, the amount of tax due will be correctly computed. Preparers who do this say they have never had it challenged. I don't think this is what the IRS intended, but I can't find a clear, specific prohibition against doing it. On the other hand, there is not even a hint in anything I could find that suggests it's permissible. One could argue that the format of Schedule D is only designed this way to make it more convenient for the preparer to compute the correct amounts. Can anyone point to language other than the Schedule D instructions "Enter all sales and exchanges of capital assets, including stocks, bonds, etc., and real estate..." that I could point to as requiring listing one sale per line? I can infer it from the fact that Schedule D-1 exists, or from the fact that "Various" is only mentioned as being valid in column d, but I was hoping for something more concrete. Thanks, Whit Matteson << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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