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| Mike Hodkin <mhodkin[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > Is there a legitimate fear that the IRS could discover the
For federal income tax purposes, the IRS has various rules> accrual-based books and then demand that the business switch > to accrual reporting for taxes purposes? under which cash basis reporting is specifically allowed. (Don't ask me to recite same, as I don't keep this stuff on the tip of my tongue.) So, if you conform to those rules, there should be no problem as far as the IRS is concerned. However, in my state (WA) you would likely get a much different response from the state sales and gross receipts tax department. They tend to "prefer" accrual reporting and will only "tolerate" cash basis in instances where the business operation is straight forward and detailed records DON'T exist. Were they to discover accrual basis records (or simply a well organized accounts receivable system), I would fully expect them to require their use for state tax reporting purposes. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Wayne Brasch" <waynebrasch[at]stowetel.com> wrote: - quote - > "Mike Hodkin" <mhodkin[at]comcast.net> wrote:
Well not ANY service company. I believe over $10 million in> > A personal service business (medical practice) has been > > using cash-based accounting for both internal tracking as > > well as for paying taxes, but then decides to switch to > > accrual-based accounting for internal tracking only (and > > continue to pay taxes on cash-based system). Is there a > > legitimate fear that the IRS could discover the > > accrual-based books and then demand that the business switch > > to accrual reporting for taxes purposes? That is, can a > > company safely keep two sets of books, one for paying taxes > > and one for internal tracking. Of course, both are > > completely truthful, just a different way of matching > > expenses and income. > Any company, practice, or firm providing services may use > the cash basis of accounting for tax purposes. receipts still requires the accrual method. -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Mike Hodkin" <mhodkin[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > A personal service business (medical practice) has been
It is possible. The likelyhood is something that would need> using cash-based accounting for both internal tracking as > well as for paying taxes, but then decides to switch to > accrual-based accounting for internal tracking only (and > continue to pay taxes on cash-based system). Is there a > legitimate fear that the IRS could discover the > accrual-based books and then demand that the business switch > to accrual reporting for taxes purposes? That is, can a > company safely keep two sets of books, one for paying taxes > and one for internal tracking. Of course, both are > completely truthful, just a different way of matching > expenses and income. to be addressed using the facts and circumstances of your particular case. One exception available is if your gross receipts are under a certain dollar amount ($1M, I THINK) then you can use the cash basis pretty much no matter what. There are also other provisions that might apply. It would behoove you to pay for a bit of research based on your particulars. Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Mike Hodkin" <mhodkin[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > A personal service business (medical practice) has been
Any company, practice, or firm providing services may use> using cash-based accounting for both internal tracking as > well as for paying taxes, but then decides to switch to > accrual-based accounting for internal tracking only (and > continue to pay taxes on cash-based system). Is there a > legitimate fear that the IRS could discover the > accrual-based books and then demand that the business switch > to accrual reporting for taxes purposes? That is, can a > company safely keep two sets of books, one for paying taxes > and one for internal tracking. Of course, both are > completely truthful, just a different way of matching > expenses and income. the cash basis of accounting for tax purposes. For the purposes of preparing financial statements to, for example, borrow money from a bank, generally accepted accounting principles says that you must use the accrual basis. You are doing nothing wrong and should not be concerned. Wayne Brasch, CPA, M. S. Taxation << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A personal service business (medical practice) has been using cash-based accounting for both internal tracking as well as for paying taxes, but then decides to switch to accrual-based accounting for internal tracking only (and continue to pay taxes on cash-based system). Is there a legitimate fear that the IRS could discover the accrual-based books and then demand that the business switch to accrual reporting for taxes purposes? That is, can a company safely keep two sets of books, one for paying taxes and one for internal tracking. Of course, both are completely truthful, just a different way of matching expenses and income. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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