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| Dave Woods, EA wrote: - quote - > "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
I noted that too. It seems clear cut to me: Any payment by> > I thought that if a taxpayer paid to a charity several > > payments during the year, he only needs to get an > > acknowledgement where any SINGLE payment itself was $250 or > > more. TR 1.170A-13(f) seems to confirm this (and so do the > > 1040 Schedule A instructions, starting as of 1994, although > > they don't count). > > > However, today I learned of a recent Tax Court opinion that > > seems to disallow a taxpayer's contribution IN AGGREGATE > > (comprised of about 35 separate acts totalling about $2,100 > > to the same charity spread across a tax year) on the grounds > > that the charity didn't acknowledge any of them. > > > I don't see where (when any individual payment is less than > > $250) the $250 rule applies. > > > Has there been some ruling where the IRS or the Tax Court > > can now aggregate separate payments across the year as one > > payment if they are all to the same qualified charity? (Or > > did the Court simply error?) If the Court is going to > > invoke the rule, shouldn't it then only disallow the > > unacknowledged payments over (or equal to) $250 and leave > > the other payments to that charity alone? > > > [If you want to, you may also address the ethics of > > disallowing a deduction by a donor where the RECIPIENT > > doesn't comply with the law, but I'm not asking about the > > "fairness" of the statute at this time.] > I took a look and didn't find any rulings on the matter. > Reg. 1.170A-13(f) (1) which you mentioned, seems to support > your opinion on the matter. itself more than $250 - yes or no? If for all payments where the answer is no, there is no such requirement. - quote - > (f) Substantiation of charitable contributions of $250 or more--
In the case I refer to, the payment amounts were stipulated.> (1) In general. No deduction is allowed under section 170(a) > for all or part of any contribution of $250 or more unless > the taxpayer substantiates the contribution with a > contemporaneous written acknowledgment from the donee > organization. A taxpayer who makes more than one > contribution of $250 or more to a donee organization in a > taxable year may substantiate the contributions with one or > more contemporaneous written acknowledgments. Section > 170(f)(8) does not apply to a payment of $250 or more if the > amount contributed (as determined under Sec. 1.170A-1(h)) is > less than $250. Separate contributions of less than $250 are > not subject to the requirements of section 170(f)(8), > regardless of whether the sum of the contributions made by a > taxpayer to a donee organization during a taxable year > equals $250 or more. > Seems to me that the burden at that point is the normal > substantiation rules apply, and not the acknowledgement > rules therefore the cancelled checks should have been > sufficient. In other words, the court goofed. Even stipulated amounts under $250 were disallowed by the Court for not meeting the rule! I just want to make certain that there's not another choice to "the Court errored." I also want to make certain that the regs. weren't ruled invalid by something I hadn't heard about.... Thanks. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > I thought that if a taxpayer paid to a charity several
I would need a cite of the case to do the correct research,> payments during the year, he only needs to get an > acknowledgement where any SINGLE payment itself was $250 or > more. TR 1.170A-13(f) seems to confirm this (and so do the > 1040 Schedule A instructions, starting as of 1994, although > they don't count). > However, today I learned of a recent Tax Court opinion that > seems to disallow a taxpayer's contribution IN AGGREGATE > (comprised of about 35 separate acts totalling about $2,100 > to the same charity spread across a tax year) on the grounds > that the charity didn't acknowledge any of them. > I don't see where (when any individual payment is less than > $250) the $250 rule applies. > Has there been some ruling where the IRS or the Tax Court > can now aggregate separate payments across the year as one > payment if they are all to the same qualified charity? (Or > did the Court simply error?) If the Court is going to > invoke the rule, shouldn't it then only disallow the > unacknowledged payments over (or equal to) $250 and leave > the other payments to that charity alone? > [If you want to, you may also address the ethics of > disallowing a deduction by a donor where the RECIPIENT > doesn't comply with the law, but I'm not asking about the > "fairness" of the statute at this time.] but from my gut, consider this - you make a $2,100 PLEDGE to your church's building fund, agreeing to make 35 equal payments of $60 because that is what fits in your budget. Does this constitute 35 separate contributions of less than $250 or a single contribution requiring the acknowledgment? Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > I thought that if a taxpayer paid to a charity several
I took a look and didn't find any rulings on the matter.> payments during the year, he only needs to get an > acknowledgement where any SINGLE payment itself was $250 or > more. TR 1.170A-13(f) seems to confirm this (and so do the > 1040 Schedule A instructions, starting as of 1994, although > they don't count). > However, today I learned of a recent Tax Court opinion that > seems to disallow a taxpayer's contribution IN AGGREGATE > (comprised of about 35 separate acts totalling about $2,100 > to the same charity spread across a tax year) on the grounds > that the charity didn't acknowledge any of them. > I don't see where (when any individual payment is less than > $250) the $250 rule applies. > Has there been some ruling where the IRS or the Tax Court > can now aggregate separate payments across the year as one > payment if they are all to the same qualified charity? (Or > did the Court simply error?) If the Court is going to > invoke the rule, shouldn't it then only disallow the > unacknowledged payments over (or equal to) $250 and leave > the other payments to that charity alone? > [If you want to, you may also address the ethics of > disallowing a deduction by a donor where the RECIPIENT > doesn't comply with the law, but I'm not asking about the > "fairness" of the statute at this time.] Reg. 1.170A-13(f) (1) which you mentioned, seems to support your opinion on the matter. (f) Substantiation of charitable contributions of $250 or more-- (1) In general. No deduction is allowed under section 170(a) for all or part of any contribution of $250 or more unless the taxpayer substantiates the contribution with a contemporaneous written acknowledgment from the donee organization. A taxpayer who makes more than one contribution of $250 or more to a donee organization in a taxable year may substantiate the contributions with one or more contemporaneous written acknowledgments. Section 170(f)(8) does not apply to a payment of $250 or more if the amount contributed (as determined under Sec. 1.170A-1(h)) is less than $250. Separate contributions of less than $250 are not subject to the requirements of section 170(f)(8), regardless of whether the sum of the contributions made by a taxpayer to a donee organization during a taxable year equals $250 or more. Seems to me that the burden at that point is the normal substantiation rules apply, and not the acknowledgement rules therefore the cancelled checks should have been sufficient. In other words, the court goofed. -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > I thought that if a taxpayer paid to a charity several
I agree with you completely. For example, say I go to> payments during the year, he only needs to get an > acknowledgement where any SINGLE payment itself was $250 or > more. TR 1.170A-13(f) seems to confirm this (and so do the > 1040 Schedule A instructions, starting as of 1994, although > they don't count). > However, today I learned of a recent Tax Court opinion that > seems to disallow a taxpayer's contribution IN AGGREGATE > (comprised of about 35 separate acts totalling about $2,100 > to the same charity spread across a tax year) on the grounds > that the charity didn't acknowledge any of them. > I don't see where (when any individual payment is less than > $250) the $250 rule applies. > Has there been some ruling where the IRS or the Tax Court > can now aggregate separate payments across the year as one > payment if they are all to the same qualified charity? (Or > did the Court simply error?) If the Court is going to > invoke the rule, shouldn't it then only disallow the > unacknowledged payments over (or equal to) $250 and leave > the other payments to that charity alone? church and leave a $20 check in the collection plate each week (ok assume someone ELSE does it). What this effectively says is that you need an acknowledgement for each check. Perhaps someone with more church going experience than I can chime in here, but it seems to me to be somewhat unrealistic to expect someone to go through that effort. -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I thought that if a taxpayer paid to a charity several payments during the year, he only needs to get an acknowledgement where any SINGLE payment itself was $250 or more. TR 1.170A-13(f) seems to confirm this (and so do the 1040 Schedule A instructions, starting as of 1994, although they don't count). However, today I learned of a recent Tax Court opinion that seems to disallow a taxpayer's contribution IN AGGREGATE (comprised of about 35 separate acts totalling about $2,100 to the same charity spread across a tax year) on the grounds that the charity didn't acknowledge any of them. I don't see where (when any individual payment is less than $250) the $250 rule applies. Has there been some ruling where the IRS or the Tax Court can now aggregate separate payments across the year as one payment if they are all to the same qualified charity? (Or did the Court simply error?) If the Court is going to invoke the rule, shouldn't it then only disallow the unacknowledged payments over (or equal to) $250 and leave the other payments to that charity alone? [If you want to, you may also address the ethics of disallowing a deduction by a donor where the RECIPIENT doesn't comply with the law, but I'm not asking about the "fairness" of the statute at this time.] << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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