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| Michael T Wing CPA wrote: - quote - > My guess is that they'll require the election to file a paper
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| Ed Zollars, CPA wrote: - quote - > D. Stussy wrote:
Even if the reasonable cause was attached to the return? I> > I don't see that as a problem: Attachment - "Taxpayer's > > election to file a paper return" (and have them sign that > > page too!).... :-) > That's presuming the FTB doesn't "expand" somewhat in the > regulations to require specific issues and disclosures. Or, > even better, adopt a "shoot first and ask questions later" > approach by simply mailing out proposed fines to the > preparer and *then* letting them argue reasonable cause. think that does it - I've been thinking about possibly running for the BoE at the next opportunity, and may do so just to tell the FTB that they can't do this! :-) - quote - > That is, there are a few ways the FTB could simply make this
Well, I guess it's time to limit myself to the 24 most> such a pain that preparers will simply give up--including a > few I'm sure I haven't yet thought of <grin> . complex returns, and let the family members' (of those clients) related returns go for FREE. :-) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| D. Stussy <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > I don't see that as a problem: Attachment - "Taxpayer's
My guess is that they'll require the election to file a paper> election to file a paper return" (and have them sign that > page too!).... :-) return to be filed electronically. <g MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > I don't see that as a problem: Attachment - "Taxpayer's
That's presuming the FTB doesn't "expand" somewhat in the> election to file a paper return" (and have them sign that > page too!).... :-) regulations to require specific issues and disclosures. Or, even better, adopt a "shoot first and ask questions later" approach by simply mailing out proposed fines to the preparer and *then* letting them argue reasonable cause. That is, there are a few ways the FTB could simply make this such a pain that preparers will simply give up--including a few I'm sure I haven't yet thought of <grin> . -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Ed Zollars, CPA wrote: - quote - > Nan Eklund wrote:
I don't see that as a problem: Attachment - "Taxpayer's> > Also, no penalty applies if there is "reasonable cause" to > > not efile. "Reasonable cause" includes TAXPAYER'S ELECTION > > to not efile. So - those of us who have clients who won't, > > or don't want to, should think about writing up a statement > > for those clients so their I DON'T WANT TO can go in their > > file. > Of course, I expect the Franchise Tax Board to come up with > some guidance on just how that election is documented and > what has to be done for it to be a valid election. I > wouldn't be *terribly* surprised if the FTB makes it a real > pain to meet the "taxpayer election" test in order to > "encourage" practitioners to steer clients away from it. election to file a paper return" (and have them sign that page too!).... :-) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Nan Eklund wrote: - quote - > Also, no penalty applies if there is "reasonable cause" to
Of course, I expect the Franchise Tax Board to come up with> not efile. "Reasonable cause" includes TAXPAYER'S ELECTION > to not efile. So - those of us who have clients who won't, > or don't want to, should think about writing up a statement > for those clients so their I DON'T WANT TO can go in their > file. some guidance on just how that election is documented and what has to be done for it to be a valid election. I wouldn't be *terribly* surprised if the FTB makes it a real pain to meet the "taxpayer election" test in order to "encourage" practitioners to steer clients away from it. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the taxpayers had to sign a form that essentially says "I understand my preparer is an idiot and so am I" <grin> in order to get out of this requirement. I also wouldn't be terribly surprised if the FTB required this form to be signed after the return is prepared. I'm just presuming the FTB is not going to want to see many "taxpayer elects out" returns coming to them and will work to try and insure that result... -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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