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Old 08-07-2003, 05:42 AM
Michael T Wing CPA
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Jake johnson <jake[at]omnimode.com> wrote:

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> I didn't know the IRS operated that way.

The situation in question is the doing of Congress,
not the IRS.

MTW

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Old 08-06-2003, 12:28 PM
jake johnson
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Default Re: Child Credit Tax Refund Questions

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> > > 2. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
> > > (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03(a)
> > > (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1,000,000
> > > > > Is the family required to add $800 to the 2003 tax burden,
> > > given that they do not qualify for the tax credit in 2003?


> > Nope. But they will use $600 per child, not $1,000.


> I'm not clear on this. They don't qualify for the credit in
> 2003. I'd think the advance payment may not need to be added
> to the tax liability as the poster suggested, but it would
> be added to income, correct?
> thanks.


Ok.. i'll answer my own question. The IRS website in the
FAQ for this Child Credit Tax Advance payment notes that you
apply this advance against what your credit is, but if its
less than the advance you don't have to pay it back. Pretty
nice... I didn't know the IRS operated that way.

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Old 08-06-2003, 11:50 AM
Dave Woods, EA
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"Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsfordnoway[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> Arthur Kamlet wrote:
> > Arthur Kamlet <ArtKamlet[at]REMOVE.com> wrote:
> > > 46g4wB2 <46g4wB2[at]att.net> wrote:


> > > > Child Credit Tax Pre-Refund Questions under two scenarios:
> > > > > > > 1. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
> > > > (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03
> > > > (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1.00
> > > > > > > Does the family get to keep the $800 for 2003 even though
> > > > they owed no tax?


> > > No.


> > I sometimes have a funny way of writing YES!
> > > Sorry, misread the question. Answer, of course, is yes you

> > keep it.


> Hmm... yes.. okay now. "no" means "yes". I think I met a
> girl who said that once.


Apparently so did Kobe Bryant, at least according to him.

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Old 08-05-2003, 09:37 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Arthur Kamlet wrote:
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> Arthur Kamlet <ArtKamlet[at]REMOVE.com> wrote:
> > 46g4wB2 <46g4wB2[at]att.net> wrote:


> > > Child Credit Tax Pre-Refund Questions under two scenarios:
> > > > > 1. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
> > > (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03
> > > (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1.00
> > > > > Does the family get to keep the $800 for 2003 even though
> > > they owed no tax?


> > No.


> I sometimes have a funny way of writing YES!
> Sorry, misread the question. Answer, of course, is yes you
> keep it.


Hmm... yes.. okay now. "no" means "yes". I think I met a
girl who said that once.

C$,
HL

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Old 08-05-2003, 09:18 PM
Dave Woods, EA
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Default Re: Child Credit Tax Refund Questions

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> > > 2. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
> > > (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03(a)
> > > (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1,000,000
> > > > > Is the family required to add $800 to the 2003 tax burden,
> > > given that they do not qualify for the tax credit in 2003?


> > Nope. But they will use $600 per child, not $1,000.


> I'm not clear on this. They don't qualify for the credit in
> 2003. I'd think the advance payment may not need to be added
> to the tax liability as the poster suggested, but it would
> be added to income, correct?


It's not income.

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Boston, MA 02109

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Old 08-05-2003, 09:18 PM
Herb Smith
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> > > 2. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
> > > (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03(a)
> > > (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1,000,000
> > > > > Is the family required to add $800 to the 2003 tax burden,
> > > given that they do not qualify for the tax credit in 2003?


> > Nope. But they will use $600 per child, not $1,000.


> I'm not clear on this. They don't qualify for the credit in
> 2003. I'd think the advance payment may not need to be added
> to the tax liability as the poster suggested, but it would
> be added to income, correct?


The "prefund" check is based on 2002 eligibility. If NOT
qualified in 2003, the check is NOT returned, and DOES NOT
affect income or taxes for 2003. It is a gift from the
government.

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Old 08-05-2003, 08:59 PM
Helen P. OPlanick EA
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Default Re: Child Credit Tax Refund Questions

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> I'm not clear on this. They don't qualify for the credit in
> 2003. I'd think the advance payment may not need to be added
> to the tax liability as the poster suggested, but it would
> be added to income, correct?


The advance payment is NEVER income. If they do not receive
the child tax credit due to high income, the advance was
just free money to them. If they do receive it, they get
$600 per kid, not $1,000.

Helen, EA in PA
Member of The Tax Gang
President, PA Society of Enrolled Agents
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Old 08-04-2003, 07:29 AM
jake johnson
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Default Re: Child Credit Tax Refund Questions

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> > 2. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
> > (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03(a)
> > (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1,000,000
> > > Is the family required to add $800 to the 2003 tax burden,

> > given that they do not qualify for the tax credit in 2003?


> Nope. But they will use $600 per child, not $1,000.


I'm not clear on this. They don't qualify for the credit in
2003. I'd think the advance payment may not need to be added
to the tax liability as the poster suggested, but it would
be added to income, correct?

thanks.

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Old 08-03-2003, 11:01 PM
Arthur Kamlet
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Arthur Kamlet <ArtKamlet[at]REMOVE.com> wrote:
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> 46g4wB2 <46g4wB2[at]att.net> wrote:

> > Child Credit Tax Pre-Refund Questions under two scenarios:
> > > 1. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000

> > (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03
> > (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1.00
> > > Does the family get to keep the $800 for 2003 even though

> > they owed no tax?


> No.


I sometimes have a funny way of writing YES!

Sorry, misread the question. Answer, of course, is yes you
keep it.

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Old 08-03-2003, 10:42 PM
Helen P. OPlanick EA
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Default Re: Child Credit Tax Refund Questions

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> 46g4wB2 <46g4wB2[at]att.net> wrote:

> > Child Credit Tax Pre-Refund Questions under two scenarios:
> > > 1. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000

> > (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03
> > (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1.00
> > > Does the family get to keep the $800 for 2003 even though

> > they owed no tax?


> No.


Art, they do get to keep it. IRS does not want it back.

Helen, EA in PA
Member of The Tax Gang
President, PA Society of Enrolled Agents
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Old 08-03-2003, 10:42 PM
Dave Woods, EA
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"Arthur Kamlet" <kamlet[at]panix.com> wrote:
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> 46g4wB2 <46g4wB2[at]att.net> wrote:

> > Child Credit Tax Pre-Refund Questions under two scenarios:
> > > 1. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000

> > (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03
> > (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1.00
> > > Does the family get to keep the $800 for 2003 even though

> > they owed no tax?


> No.


Answer is yes. They do get to keep it.

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Old 08-02-2003, 08:23 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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46g4wB2 <46g4wB2[at]att.net> wrote:

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> Child Credit Tax Pre-Refund Questions under two scenarios:
> 1. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
> (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03
> (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1.00
> Does the family get to keep the $800 for 2003 even though
> they owed no tax?


No.

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> 2. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
> (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03(a)
> (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1,000,000
> Is the family required to add $800 to the 2003 tax burden,
> given that they do not qualify for the tax credit in 2003?


I have to believe the answer is no.

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Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 08-02-2003, 08:04 AM
Helen P. OPlanick EA
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Default Re: Child Credit Tax Refund Questions

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> Child Credit Tax Pre-Refund Questions under two scenarios:
> 1. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
> (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03
> (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1.00
> Does the family get to keep the $800 for 2003 even though
> they owed no tax?


Yes.

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> 2. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
> (b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03(a)
> (c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1,000,000
> Is the family required to add $800 to the 2003 tax burden,
> given that they do not qualify for the tax credit in 2003?


Nope. But they will use $600 per child, not $1,000.

Helen, EA in PA
Member of The Tax Gang
President, PA Society of Enrolled Agents
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Old 08-02-2003, 08:04 AM
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"46g4wB2" <46g4wB2[at]att.net> wrote

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> Child Credit Tax Pre-Refund Questions under two scenarios:
> Does the family get to keep the $800 for 2003 even though
> they owed no tax?


Yes.

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> Is the family required to add $800 to the 2003 tax burden,
> given that they do not qualify for the tax credit in 2003?


No.

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Old 08-01-2003, 10:54 PM
46g4wB2
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Default Child Credit Tax Refund Questions

Child Credit Tax Pre-Refund Questions under two scenarios:

1. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
(b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03
(c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1.00

Does the family get to keep the $800 for 2003 even though
they owed no tax?

2. (a) 2002 Married Joint AGI with two children : $100,000
(b) IRS Sends Pre Refund Check for $800 on 7/30/03(a)
(c) 2003 Married Joint AGI with two children = $1,000,000

Is the family required to add $800 to the 2003 tax burden,
given that they do not qualify for the tax credit in 2003?

Thanks

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