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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > Harlan Lunsford wrote:
I have to admit what I had in mind when writing the above was the> > But be aware, that sometimes the father, if he's paying > > child support, may get to one of those store front preparers > > first, and try to, no, actually claim the child on HIS tax > > return before y'all even think about filing. In which case, > > it'll take a little more work on your part to cinch the > > exemption. > That's not entirely fair. As "child support" DOES count > as "support", a non-custodial parent may have a colorable > claim toward meeting the support test. It seems unlikely > in the OPs case. > I have a client who is paying child support, and we > seem to be in agreement that the children's grandparents, > with whom the children are living, cannot claim the > exemptions without a multiple support agreement. good for nothing churl who in the heat of the moment donated his sperm to the future mother who didn't know what she was getting (into to). This type of "father" doesnt' pay child support, though. C$, HL, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| louann wrote: - quote - > My husband and I are about to become grandparents for the
You already have THE official answer from other respondents.> first time. Our daughter is only 16 and her and the baby > will live here for at least another year until she > graduates. Our health insurance is covering the pregnancy > but I need to know since they will be living here can we > claim the baby on our taxes? The dad is only 17 so whatever > is any child support we will get from him I am sure won't > cover expenses. But be aware, that sometimes the father, if he's paying child support, may get to one of those store front preparers first, and try to, no, actually claim the child on HIS tax return before y'all even think about filing. In which case, it'll take a little more work on your part to cinch the exemption. A word to the wise then. Make sure your daughter, or anybody, does NOT give the father the social security number of the child. And be alert to his even asking for it, cause that will be a clue as to his intentions. Believe me, I've seen this happen. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| louspad[at]nycap.rr.com (louann) writes: - quote - > My husband and I are about to become grandparents for the
Yes!!! It's likely, as long as the child lives with you> first time. Our daughter is only 16 and her and the baby > will live here for at least another year until she > graduates. Our health insurance is covering the pregnancy > but I need to know since they will be living here can we > claim the baby on our taxes? The dad is only 17 so whatever > is any child support we will get from him I am sure won't > cover expenses. and you provide more than 1/2 the child's support. "Jack" - John H. Fisher - TaxService[at]aol.com Philadelphia, Pa - Atlantic City, NJ - West Wildwood, NJ My Newsgroups & Boards at: http://members.aol.com/TaxService/index.html Where Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!= ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| louspad[at]nycap.rr.com (louann) wrote: - quote - > My husband and I are about to become grandparents for the
There are five tests that have to be met to claim the child> first time. Our daughter is only 16 and her and the baby > will live here for at least another year until she > graduates. Our health insurance is covering the pregnancy > but I need to know since they will be living here can we > claim the baby on our taxes? The dad is only 17 so whatever > is any child support we will get from him I am sure won't > cover expenses. as a dependent: 1) Member of Household or Relationship Test (As the baby is your grandchild, this test would be satisfied.) 2) Citizen or Resident Test (Is the grandchild a U.S. citizen? Is s/he living in the U.S., Canada or Mexico? If the answer to either question is yes, the test is met.) 3) Joint Return Test (I assume the baby will not be filing a joint federal income tax return any time soon.) 4) Gross Income Test (I also assume that the baby will not have gross income exceeding $3,000 per year.) 5) Support Test (This is the important one in your case. Generally, you must provide more than half of a personšs total support during the calendar year to meet this test. If you receive no contribution from either parent for the baby's support--including child support payments from the father--then this test is met and you can claim the dependent exemption. If you do receive any money for the baby from either of them, you would have to be able to show that you provided more support for the child than the parents.) HTH -- D.F. Manno dommanno[at]netscape.net "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." (George Orwell) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Bill" <an_ordinary_guy_158[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > louann posted:
You don't know that meets the support test. Providing a> > My husband and I are about to become > > grandparents for the first time. Our daughter is > > only 16 and her and the baby will live here for > > at least another year until she graduates. Our > > health insurance is covering the pregnancy > > but I need to know since they will be living > > here can we claim the baby on our taxes? The > > dad is only 17 so whatever is any child > > support we will get from him I am sure won't > > cover expenses. > Yes, you can claim the grandchild as a dependent. > There are five tests for dependency: member of household or > relationship test; citizen or resident test; joint return > test; gross income test; and support test. > You appear to qualify on all five. For full details, obtain > a copy of Pub 17 and check Chapter 3. roof over the kids head is substantial, but you don't know what the father is providing for child support. -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| louann <louspad[at]nycap.rr.com> wrote: - quote - > My husband and I are about to become grandparents for the
If you provide more than half the grandchild's suport it> first time. Our daughter is only 16 and her and the baby > will live here for at least another year until she > graduates. Our health insurance is covering the pregnancy > but I need to know since they will be living here can we > claim the baby on our taxes? The dad is only 17 so whatever > is any child support we will get from him I am sure won't > cover expenses. sure sounds like you can claim her as a dependent and perhaps claim child tax credit as well. You might possibly claim earned income credit too. IRS Publication 501 covers five tests which must be passed for you to claim someone as your dependent, and it sounds as if they are all passed if you provide most of the baby's support. If you claim the baby no one else can, of course. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| louspad[at]nycap.rr.com (louann) wrote: - quote - > My husband and I are about to become grandparents for the
The baby? No question that you will qualify to claim the> first time. Our daughter is only 16 and her and the baby > will live here for at least another year until she > graduates. Our health insurance is covering the pregnancy > but I need to know since they will be living here can we > claim the baby on our taxes? The dad is only 17 so whatever > is any child support we will get from him I am sure won't > cover expenses. little guy/gal. If the daughter is your dependent, you obviously will support the child also. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| louspad[at]nycap.rr.com (louann) wrote: - quote - > My husband and I are about to become grandparents for the
So long as you provided more than half the support for each,> first time. Our daughter is only 16 and her and the baby > will live here for at least another year until she > graduates.... and there aren't any unusual issues, they're both your dependents, and you get the exemptions. You also get the child tax credit: for your daughter if she doesn't turn 17 this year, and for the baby. If there are citizenship or residency issues, or your daughter or somebody else is paying some of their support, or the baby has income, work through the criteria in Publication 501 and the child tax credit instructions carefully. -- Chris Green << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| louann posted: - quote - > My husband and I are about to become
Yes, you can claim the grandchild as a dependent.> grandparents for the first time. Our daughter is > only 16 and her and the baby will live here for > at least another year until she graduates. Our > health insurance is covering the pregnancy > but I need to know since they will be living > here can we claim the baby on our taxes? The > dad is only 17 so whatever is any child > support we will get from him I am sure won't > cover expenses. There are five tests for dependency: member of household or relationship test; citizen or resident test; joint return test; gross income test; and support test. You appear to qualify on all five. For full details, obtain a copy of Pub 17 and check Chapter 3. Bill << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My husband and I are about to become grandparents for the first time. Our daughter is only 16 and her and the baby will live here for at least another year until she graduates. Our health insurance is covering the pregnancy but I need to know since they will be living here can we claim the baby on our taxes? The dad is only 17 so whatever is any child support we will get from him I am sure won't cover expenses. Thanks for any help you can give me.. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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