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Old 08-05-2003, 09:18 PM
Gene E. Utterback, EA
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"Red Scholefield" <redscho[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> "Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsfordnoway[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > so far you've done all the right things by responding to IRS
> > and submitting documentation. All you can do now is wait
> > for their answer. If you don't receive it within 90 days,
> > you can follow up with a call to the phone number on the
> > notice.


> Harassment . . . .: to annoy persistently. Annoy, bedevil,
> beleaguer, gnaw, hagride, harry, pester, plague - whatever
> you want to define it as. . . .


<snipped
Being harrassed is not the same as being terrorized.

Gene E. Utterback, EA

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Old 08-02-2003, 08:04 AM
Nan Eklund
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Dear Harlan - you may adopt me any time.

Nan, EA in LA

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Old 08-01-2003, 10:35 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Red Scholefield wrote:
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> "Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsfordnoway[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > so far you've done all the right things by responding to IRS
> > and submitting documentation. All you can do now is wait
> > for their answer. If you don't receive it within 90 days,
> > you can follow up with a call to the phone number on the
> > notice.


> Harassment . . . .: to annoy persistently. Annoy, bedevil,
> beleaguer, gnaw, hagride, harry, pester, plague - whatever
> you want to define it as. . . .


(snipsnipsnipped)

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> Count on a long battle, a year minimum probably.

Oh now, not necessarily the case. Even without a tax pro,
one can wrap it up within six months max.

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> I am certain if you retain the services of a tax account or
> attorney that you might speed things up a bit, but that will
> cost you also. At $150/hr you can eat up the amount they are
> harassing you for . . .or more . . . .. I suspect that is
> what they are counting on in these small cases so you will
> just cave and pay them.


How much? Sure, maybe in south Florida or the other LA.
or north of the MD line. But even for 150$/hr I wouldn't
move.

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> I wish I could give you a better story. I have gotten a
> great deal of help from this forum . . . . but none from the
> IRS.


We all appreciate the kind words, Red. I for one hope that
you will be sure to let us all know how your case comes out.

Cheer$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA

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Old 08-01-2003, 10:35 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Nan Eklund wrote:

(among other things

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> Nan, EA in LA

Just for the record, Nan is NOT my long lost sister.
And neither of us lives in Loos...ana!

Cheer$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA

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Old 07-31-2003, 10:10 PM
Red Scholefield
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"Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsfordnoway[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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> so far you've done all the right things by responding to IRS
> and submitting documentation. All you can do now is wait
> for their answer. If you don't receive it within 90 days,
> you can follow up with a call to the phone number on the
> notice.


Harassment . . . .: to annoy persistently. Annoy, bedevil,
beleaguer, gnaw, hagride, harry, pester, plague - whatever
you want to define it as. . . .

Once they are on your back you can expect months of
harassment. There seems to be a disconnect between those
harassing and those that you reply to. The IRS made a error
in entering the data from my 1040, and sent me a refund
check . . . "You figured the taxable amount of your SS
incorrectly". I couldn't find any error. Nine months later
I got a notice I had underfiled by the amount of the refund
check with details that I was then able to see what the
error was . . . . . they had misplaced a decimal point. I
returned the refund, paid the interest . . . . and four
months after that they are still harassing me for the $5000
underpayment, the interest and a penalty of $1000 (a letter
acknowledging the receipt of the $5000 not withstanding).

You cannot contact the individual identified to contact with
the phone number given. They will not call you at times you
have specified that you will be available. If you do manage
to contact a live person, or go to your local office, they
check the figures, agree it was a mistake, and say they will
get back to you after they check your actual 1040,
apparanlty what they have available on the screen is not
good enough . . . . . . and more letters keep coming that
grow more threatening. You have options of petitioning the
tax court with $60 filing fee or toughing it out responding
to each of their letters with copies of the information
along with form 843 request for abatement.

Count on a long battle, a year minimum probably.

I am certain if you retain the services of a tax account or
attorney that you might speed things up a bit, but that will
cost you also. At $150/hr you can eat up the amount they are
harassing you for . . .or more . . . .. I suspect that is
what they are counting on in these small cases so you will
just cave and pay them.

I wish I could give you a better story. I have gotten a
great deal of help from this forum . . . . but none from the
IRS.

Red S.

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Old 07-31-2003, 04:05 AM
Barry Picker
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"hega" <heldh[at]gsge.net> wrote:

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> I just got a notice from the IRS saying that I did not
> report income from 2001. I did report the income, but I used
> my small business tax ID and filed it on schedule C. Also
> when the company gave me the 1099, the form had my business
> tax id on it, not my personal SS number. On the IRS notice,
> they are claiming that I received the 1099 with my personal
> SS number. I wrote the IRS back stating that I had filed and
> paid on the money and also enclosed documentation showing
> that the company that gave me the 1099 used my business tax
> id and not my SS number. Will the IRS leave me alone at this
> point? I made less than $25,000 that year, just to give you
> an idea of my tax bracket.


Relax. My experience is that the IRS will look over the
return and if it can confirm that you reported income in
excess of what the 1099s show, they will leave you alone.

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Old 07-31-2003, 04:05 AM
Dave Woods, EA
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"hega" <heldh[at]gsge.net> wrote:

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> I just got a notice from the IRS saying that I did not
> report income from 2001. I did report the income, but I used
> my small business tax ID and filed it on schedule C. Also
> when the company gave me the 1099, the form had my business
> tax id on it, not my personal SS number. On the IRS notice,
> they are claiming that I received the 1099 with my personal
> SS number. I wrote the IRS back stating that I had filed and
> paid on the money and also enclosed documentation showing
> that the company that gave me the 1099 used my business tax
> id and not my SS number. Will the IRS leave me alone at this
> point?


Call them and find out, or wait for their written response.
Your explanation seems proper and if someone with a three
digit IQ looks at it, that SHOULD be the end of it.

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> I made less than $25,000 that year, just to give you
> an idea of my tax bracket.


I had a steak burrito for lunch. Thanks for sharing.

--
David M. Woods, EA
Boston, MA 02109

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Old 07-31-2003, 03:46 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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Default Re: Need Advice - I am being terrorized by the IRS

hega <heldh[at]gsge.net> wrote:

- quote -

> I just got a notice from the IRS saying that I did not
> report income from 2001. I did report the income, but I used
> my small business tax ID and filed it on schedule C. Also
> when the company gave me the 1099, the form had my business
> tax id on it, not my personal SS number. On the IRS notice,
> they are claiming that I received the 1099 with my personal
> SS number. I wrote the IRS back stating that I had filed and
> paid on the money and also enclosed documentation showing
> that the company that gave me the 1099 used my business tax
> id and not my SS number. Will the IRS leave me alone at this
> point? I made less than $25,000 that year, just to give you
> an idea of my tax bracket.


If I understand correctly, you properly reported all self
employment income on schedule C and you included your EIN
and your business name on your schedule C where indicated?

If so, compare the amount of income you reported with the
amount the IRS has notified you about, and if you think the
IRS just messed up, a copy of your Schedule C -- perhaps
with an income schedule -- should clear it up. Of course if
you reported less income than indicated on their notice, you
need to resolve that.

The ball seems to be in their court now. If they still have
a problem -- not likely from what you have told us -- they
will let you know and you should be very prompt in following
up any further notices, if any.

__
Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 07-31-2003, 03:46 AM
Nan Eklund
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Most of our offices answer, for our clients, a lot of these
notices every year. Almost always the IRS will politely
straighten out the problem. They are an enormous
bureaucracy. And have some clerks who: (pick your answer)
don't read, don't understand, don't read English, were busy
listening to something else when they sent out the
notice......

Of course, we never say any of those things......just "this
in an error; please fix it".

Some of us say it with BRIGHT RED MARKING PENS !!! after the
3rd or 4th notice, but that's another story.

Nan, EA in LA

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Old 07-31-2003, 03:46 AM
Phil Marti
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Default Re: Need Advice - I am being terrorized by the IRS

heldh[at]gsge.net (hega) writes:

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> I just got a notice from the IRS saying that I did not
> report income from 2001. I did report the income, but I used
> my small business tax ID and filed it on schedule C. Also
> when the company gave me the 1099, the form had my business
> tax id on it, not my personal SS number. On the IRS notice,
> they are claiming that I received the 1099 with my personal
> SS number. I wrote the IRS back stating that I had filed and
> paid on the money and also enclosed documentation showing
> that the company that gave me the 1099 used my business tax
> id and not my SS number.


1. Drop the drama. The IRS is hardly terrorizing you by
asking for information about your return.

2. Your explanation of the problem doesn't make any sense.
While your Schedule C may show your EIN, that schedule is
an addendum to your 1040, which is filed under your SSN.
The IRS is saying that there was more income reported on
1099's than you reported on your Schedule C.

3. You've provided your explanation. Wait and see what
their response is.

Phil Marti
Topeka, KS

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Old 07-30-2003, 07:57 PM
hega
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Default Need Advice - I am being terrorized by the IRS

I just got a notice from the IRS saying that I did not
report income from 2001. I did report the income, but I used
my small business tax ID and filed it on schedule C. Also
when the company gave me the 1099, the form had my business
tax id on it, not my personal SS number. On the IRS notice,
they are claiming that I received the 1099 with my personal
SS number. I wrote the IRS back stating that I had filed and
paid on the money and also enclosed documentation showing
that the company that gave me the 1099 used my business tax
id and not my SS number. Will the IRS leave me alone at this
point? I made less than $25,000 that year, just to give you
an idea of my tax bracket.

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