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| "Gene E. Utterback, EA" <eagent[at]alliancetax.com> wrote: - quote - > "jm2545[at]yahoo.com" <julie[at]attbi.com> wrote:
Form 900> > I owe the IRS back taxes for 93-94. In 99 I made an installment > > agreement with them to pay off what I owe at the rate of $300 a > > month. As of now I owe approximately $8000 for 93. (Penalties and > > interest are a killer, I already more than paid the principle.) > > > Anyway, what happens at the end of this year? I know that the IRS > > has 10 years to collect the debt, but is that extended indefinitely > > because I signed an installment agreement with them? > The statute is only extended if you signed an agreement to > extend the statute of limitations for collections - Form 872 > I think. If the IRS didn't get you to sign that at the time > in 99 you may be off the hook, but don't count on it. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > jm2545[at]yahoo.com wrote:
That's good to know. Have they changed that rule at all?> > I owe the IRS back taxes for 93-94. In 99 I made an installment > > agreement with them to pay off what I owe at the rate of $300 a > > month. As of now I owe approximately $8000 for 93. (Penalties and > > interest are a killer, I already more than paid the principle.) > > > Anyway, what happens at the end of this year? I know that the IRS > > has 10 years to collect the debt, but is that extended indefinitely > > because I signed an installment agreement with them? > Installment agreements (when you signed it) don't extend the > collection statute. Your wording implies that more recent installment agreements might extend the collection statute. - quote - > However, note that the 10 year clock
Thanks, I'll do that.> STARTS from the date of the assessment, which might not be > the same as the filing of the return. You need to order a > transcript of your account and see on what date the tax was > actually assessed (look for transaction codes 150 [your > return] and 300 [supplemental assessments]). << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "jm2545[at]yahoo.com" <julie[at]attbi.com> wrote: - quote - > I owe the IRS back taxes for 93-94. In 99 I made an installment
Julie, under current rules, the IRS can make you sign a> agreement with them to pay off what I owe at the rate of $300 a > month. As of now I owe approximately $8000 for 93. (Penalties and > interest are a killer, I already more than paid the principle.) > Anyway, what happens at the end of this year? I know that the IRS > has 10 years to collect the debt, but is that extended indefinitely > because I signed an installment agreement with them? waiver of the statute of limitations for up to five years in conjunction with an Installment Agreement in order for the taxes to be paid in full. Sorry for the long, run-on sentence. In your case, the question starts with when did you file those returns? If you filed them on time, the remaining time on the statute may be pretty short, meaning that the IRS would not be able to collect the full amount owed before the statutes of limitations expire. If you filed very late, there should be sufficient time to collect the tax prior to the statute expiration. My suggestion would be to contact the IRS & get a record of account and determine when the returns were filed, when the statutes will expire and approximately how long it will take to pay off the tax, penalties and interest. Then, feel free to contact me or any other tax practitioner and figure out what to do next. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| jm2545[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > I owe the IRS back taxes for 93-94. In 99 I made an installment
Installment agreements (when you signed it) don't extend the> agreement with them to pay off what I owe at the rate of $300 a > month. As of now I owe approximately $8000 for 93. (Penalties and > interest are a killer, I already more than paid the principle.) > Anyway, what happens at the end of this year? I know that the IRS > has 10 years to collect the debt, but is that extended indefinitely > because I signed an installment agreement with them? collection statute. However, note that the 10 year clock STARTS from the date of the assessment, which might not be the same as the filing of the return. You need to order a transcript of your account and see on what date the tax was actually assessed (look for transaction codes 150 [your return] and 300 [supplemental assessments]). << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "jm2545[at]yahoo.com" <julie[at]attbi.com> wrote: - quote - > I owe the IRS back taxes for 93-94. In 99 I made an installment
The statute is only extended if you signed an agreement to> agreement with them to pay off what I owe at the rate of $300 a > month. As of now I owe approximately $8000 for 93. (Penalties and > interest are a killer, I already more than paid the principle.) > Anyway, what happens at the end of this year? I know that the IRS > has 10 years to collect the debt, but is that extended indefinitely > because I signed an installment agreement with them? extend the statute of limitations for collections - Form 872 I think. If the IRS didn't get you to sign that at the time in 99 you may be off the hook, but don't count on it. First, if the liability was for 1994, that return was not due until 94, which runs that statute until 2004 - the end of NEXT year, not this year. Second, IRS could very well institute aggressive collection actions to make sure they collect prior to the statute expiring. For instance, they could levy your bank account or lien your home. They have gotten pretty aggressive about this in the last few years. You might want to consult with a professional comfortable with the Offer in Compromise procedure. You might find that you can reach a compromise by showing that you have paid the tax and interest in full and are paying nothing now other than penalty, then offering to settle the case for a token payment under the Effective Tax Administration theory. Since the end of the statute is approaching the IRS may be amenable to settling this rather than taking aggressive collection actions. But I would advise you that an OIC under these circumstances is NOT something that should be attempted by an amatuer. Good luck, Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I owe the IRS back taxes for 93-94. In 99 I made an installment
The only way to find out is get a copy of your account> agreement with them to pay off what I owe at the rate of $300 a > month. As of now I owe approximately $8000 for 93. (Penalties and > interest are a killer, I already more than paid the principle.) > Anyway, what happens at the end of this year? I know that the IRS > has 10 years to collect the debt, but is that extended indefinitely > because I signed an installment agreement with them? (transcript) and check the assessment date. That is your starting point for the 10 year statute. If you did not file your 93 return until 95 or so and IRS did not do an SFR, you have at least a few more years. Helen, EA in PA Member of The Tax Gang President, PA Society of Enrolled Agents 1040EZ and 1040A tax prep at www.1040.com/1040pro << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I owe the IRS back taxes for 93-94. In 99 I made an installment agreement with them to pay off what I owe at the rate of $300 a month. As of now I owe approximately $8000 for 93. (Penalties and interest are a killer, I already more than paid the principle.) Anyway, what happens at the end of this year? I know that the IRS has 10 years to collect the debt, but is that extended indefinitely because I signed an installment agreement with them? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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