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Old 07-21-2003, 01:07 AM
scott
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Default Re: Maryland changes refund but gives no reason

Harlan Lunsford <hlunsfordnoway[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> scott wrote:

> > I filed Maryland return on time. They reduced my refund
> > because they had used my Federal refund amount to figure for
> > the refundable earned income credit. They were suposed to
> > use the Federal EIC amount to figure the state credit. I
> > sent in copies of all the relevant forms showing their
> > error. Today, I got a letter denying my full refund and
> > here's what they sAID, "We feel the EIC calculated on
> > federal return is overstated. We can only allow the amount
> > our system calculated."
> > > I have gone over my federal return 50 times [exxageration]

> > and find no error. I am 100% sure that it is correct. How
> > can they just "feel" like reducing my refund [4th straight
> > year, BTW]? I'll call them tomorrow but this is getting
> > frustrating. Frustrating enough to move out of Maryland to
> > Virginia where they had no problems with my return.
> > > What do I have to do? Do I need professional tax accountant

> > to do this? Will that help? My return is not real
> > complicated, so I've done it myself..


> First of all, I have a real problem with that word they use:
> "feel". Down here at least, people use that word as a
> synonym for "opine". Either way, something like this
> doesn't seem to be a matter for an opinion. (AT least I
> don't feel it does.)
> Otherwise I was surprised to find the state of Murryland so
> liberal to have a refundable EIC! But sure enough, there
> it is in writing:
> (begin quote from Maryland tax link:
> * The credit is calculated as 50% of the earned income
> credit claimed on the federal return. A worksheet is
> included in the tax booklet (State Earned Income Worksheet)
> to help calculate.
> * If the credit is more than the Maryland tax
> liability, complete the Refundable Earned Income Credit
> Worksheet, which is also in the tax booklet.
> * The refundable earned income credit is calculated as
> 16% of the federal earned income credit, less the state
> income tax liability. If this amount is zero or less, no
> refund is due.
> * A Maryland resident taking a state earned income
> credit can also take a local income tax credit. Complete the
> Local Earned Income Credit Worksheet included in the tax
> booklet.
> * Nonresidents and part-year residents must prorate
> their credits based on the ratio of Maryland adjusted gross
> income to federal adjusted gross income.
> * Do not claim the credit on Form 123 (Maryland Special
> Refund Request). Instead, use Forms 502, 503, 505 or 515.
> * Enter the state, local and refundable earned income credit
> amounts on the three separate lines provided on the Maryland
> return.
> If the credit is more than the tax liability:
> * The unused state credit may not be carried forward to
> any other tax year. The refundable portion of the state
> credit may be refunded for individuals with dependents.
> * The unused local income tax credit may not be
> refunded or carried forward to any other tax year.
> (end quote)
> 1. did you complete the worksheet?


Yes, and sent a copy to them when showing how it was calculated.

- quote -

> 2. does paragraph 3 apply perhaps?

You mean this one:?

* The refundable earned income credit is calculated as
16% of the federal earned income credit, less the state
income tax liability. If this amount is zero or less, no
refund is due.

NO.

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> 3. were you a full year resident of Maryland?

Yes.

- quote -

> 4. note the necessity for computing three different credits
> for state, local, and refundable credits.


Yeah, did that.

- quote -

> You might not really need tax professional help. Try going
> down to the local state tax office and asking to speak to
> someone versed in income tax matters for an explanation.
> Sure sounds convoluted to me.


Thanks. I will do that. This is the 4th straight year
with the same problem. I've worked it out in the past,
but this time they're response is different.

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Old 07-18-2003, 08:03 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Default Re: Maryland changes refund but gives no reason

scott wrote:

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> I filed Maryland return on time. They reduced my refund
> because they had used my Federal refund amount to figure for
> the refundable earned income credit. They were suposed to
> use the Federal EIC amount to figure the state credit. I
> sent in copies of all the relevant forms showing their
> error. Today, I got a letter denying my full refund and
> here's what they sAID, "We feel the EIC calculated on
> federal return is overstated. We can only allow the amount
> our system calculated."
> I have gone over my federal return 50 times [exxageration]
> and find no error. I am 100% sure that it is correct. How
> can they just "feel" like reducing my refund [4th straight
> year, BTW]? I'll call them tomorrow but this is getting
> frustrating. Frustrating enough to move out of Maryland to
> Virginia where they had no problems with my return.
> What do I have to do? Do I need professional tax accountant
> to do this? Will that help? My return is not real
> complicated, so I've done it myself..


First of all, I have a real problem with that word they use:
"feel". Down here at least, people use that word as a
synonym for "opine". Either way, something like this
doesn't seem to be a matter for an opinion. (AT least I
don't feel it does.)

Otherwise I was surprised to find the state of Murryland so
liberal to have a refundable EIC! But sure enough, there
it is in writing:

(begin quote from Maryland tax link:
* The credit is calculated as 50% of the earned income
credit claimed on the federal return. A worksheet is
included in the tax booklet (State Earned Income Worksheet)
to help calculate.
* If the credit is more than the Maryland tax
liability, complete the Refundable Earned Income Credit
Worksheet, which is also in the tax booklet.
* The refundable earned income credit is calculated as
16% of the federal earned income credit, less the state
income tax liability. If this amount is zero or less, no
refund is due.
* A Maryland resident taking a state earned income
credit can also take a local income tax credit. Complete the
Local Earned Income Credit Worksheet included in the tax
booklet.
* Nonresidents and part-year residents must prorate
their credits based on the ratio of Maryland adjusted gross
income to federal adjusted gross income.
* Do not claim the credit on Form 123 (Maryland Special
Refund Request). Instead, use Forms 502, 503, 505 or 515.
* Enter the state, local and refundable earned income credit
amounts on the three separate lines provided on the Maryland
return.

If the credit is more than the tax liability:

* The unused state credit may not be carried forward to
any other tax year. The refundable portion of the state
credit may be refunded for individuals with dependents.
* The unused local income tax credit may not be
refunded or carried forward to any other tax year.
(end quote)

1. did you complete the worksheet?
2. does paragraph 3 apply perhaps?
3. were you a full year resident of Maryland?
4. note the necessity for computing three different credits
for state, local, and refundable credits.

You might not really need tax professional help. Try going
down to the local state tax office and asking to speak to
someone versed in income tax matters for an explanation.

Sure sounds convoluted to me.

Cheer$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA

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