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| EA Dave Woods <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > Well I think its safe to say neither of us would feel
I don't know about that. <g> My main concern with be with> comfortable being a guinea pig taking that position. the vagaries of the term "metropolitan area." MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Michael T Wing CPA" <mtwingcpa[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > EA Dave Woods <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote:
Well I think its safe to say neither of us would feel> > I would interpret that to mean in THIS instance, that when > > the taxpayer takes this specific job, he no longer > > normally works in the metropolitan area. > Well, it's clear that the job outside of the metropolitan > area has to be "temporary." Once it is no longer temporary, > then that location apparently becomes "where the taxpayer > normally works." So, basically you get one year (assuming > the job is not "indefinite" to begin with) to work this > angle. > I don't necessarily like this rule because, like you, I view > it as essentially being "commuting." But, I guess the logic > is that if I would be able to deduct the cost of common > carrier travel (air, etc.) to an "away from home" temporary > job location, then there is no reason why I shouldn't be > able to similarly deduct the cost of auto travel. comfortable being a guinea pig taking that position. -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| EA Dave Woods <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > I disagree with your assessment.
I disagree with your disagreement. <gNote the following (especially item #1) from Rev Rul 99-7: -----quote----- HOLDING In general, daily transportation expenses incurred in going between a taxpayer's residence and a work location are nondeductible commuting expenses. However, such expenses are deductible under the circumstances described in paragraph (1), (2), or (3) below. (1) A taxpayer may deduct daily transportation expenses incurred in going between the taxpayer's residence and a temporary work location OUTSIDE the metropolitan area where the taxpayer lives and normally works. However, unless paragraph (2) or (3) below applies, daily transportation expenses incurred in going between the taxpayer's residence and a temporary work location WITHIN that metropolitan area are nondeductible commuting expenses. [emphasis added] (2) If a taxpayer has one or more regular work locations away from the taxpayer's residence, the taxpayer may deduct daily transportation expenses incurred in going between the taxpayer's residence and a temporary work location in the same trade or business, regardless of the distance. (The Service will continue not to follow the Walker decision.) (3) If a taxpayer's residence is the taxpayer's principal place of business within the meaning of section 280A(c)(1)(A), the taxpayer may deduct daily transportation expenses incurred in going between the residence and another work location in the same trade or business, regardless of whether the other work location is regular or temporary and regardless of the distance. -----end quote----- MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Michael T Wing CPA" <mtwingcpa[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > EA Dave Woods <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote:
I disagree with your assessment. If one only has one work> > Transportation expenses include the expenses of traveling > > from one work place to another and of traveling between the > > taxpayer's residence and a temporary work place within the > > metropolitan area, provided (1) the taxpayer has one or more > > regular work locations away from the taxpayer's residence, > > in which case the taxpayer can deduct daily transportation > > expenses incurred in going between the taxpayer's residence > > and a temporary work location in the same trade or business, > > regardless of the distance. > That's the rule for travel WITHIN the metropolitan area. For > travel OUTSIDE the metro area, it is my understanding that > it IS deductible so long as the job is temporary, meaning > (for this purpose) not longer than one year. It is > apparently not necessary to simultaneously maintain a > "regular" work location inside the metro area when this > particular rule applies. > By the way, I "disagree" with this rule, but it does appear > to be on the books somewhere. The logic, I suppose, is that > you are "away from (tax) home" when traveling outside of > your normal metropolitan area. location, it's commuting whether the job is temporary or not. This isn't a case of being moved to a different location, the person was hired TO work in this place. That the job term was finite should be irrelevant. The poster was hired TO work a specific job at a specific location. Whether that job is expected to last a month or a year doesn't change the nature of commuting. -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Michael T Wing CPA wrote: - quote - > EA Dave Woods <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote:
The U.S. Government used a 40 mile radius, at least as of> > Any mileage getting to and from the > > location is non-deductible commuting. > Isn't there a (somewhat confusing) rule that allows deductible > mileage for "commuting" to a temporary job location outside of > the "metropolitan area" where you normally live and work? 150 > miles is would easily span the largest metropolitan area in my > state (Seattle-Tacoma-Everett). Might be different if you were > talking about Los Angeles, but still 150 miles is quite a > distance and would seemingly be beyond the area where you would > "normally" work. 1994 when I left them - to qualify as "travel away from home." The temporary location could not be within 40 miles of either the residence or the permanent duty station (office). << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Michael T Wing CPA" <mtwingcpa[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > EA Dave Woods <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote:
There is a rule for that, but in the facts given, the poster> > Any mileage getting to and from the > > location is non-deductible commuting. > Isn't there a (somewhat confusing) rule that allows deductible > mileage for "commuting" to a temporary job location outside of > the "metropolitan area" where you normally live and work? 150 > miles is would easily span the largest metropolitan area in my > state (Seattle-Tacoma-Everett). Might be different if you were > talking about Los Angeles, but still 150 miles is quite a > distance and would seemingly be beyond the area where you would > "normally" work. was hired TO work in this location. A temporary work location must be a location other than one in which you normally work. If someone hires me tomorrow for a job in NY, whether or not it is a temporary job, it's not a temporary work location away from my regular location, the temporary job IS the regular location. From Kleinrock: Transportation expenses include the expenses of traveling from one work place to another and of traveling between the taxpayer's residence and a temporary work place within the metropolitan area, provided (1) the taxpayer has one or more regular work locations away from the taxpayer's residence, in which case the taxpayer can deduct daily transportation expenses incurred in going between the taxpayer's residence and a temporary work location in the same trade or business, regardless of the distance. -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| EA Dave Woods <d.woods[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > Any mileage getting to and from the
Isn't there a (somewhat confusing) rule that allows deductible> location is non-deductible commuting. mileage for "commuting" to a temporary job location outside of the "metropolitan area" where you normally live and work? 150 miles is would easily span the largest metropolitan area in my state (Seattle-Tacoma-Everett). Might be different if you were talking about Los Angeles, but still 150 miles is quite a distance and would seemingly be beyond the area where you would "normally" work. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "John" <john[at]infody.com> wrote: - quote - > I'm getting a contract that is located 150 miles away from
Per diem for what? Any mileage getting to and from the> my home, but in the same state. I was told that they can > only do W2 with me, no 1099 or corp to corp. Since it is a > very short contract (~8 weeks), they can not do any per diem > on top of my pay. > My question is whether I can do per diem by myself later > when filing the tax return. location is non-deductible commuting. Even if the company paid you some sort of mileage allowance, it would be taxable to you. -- David M. Woods, EA Boston, MA 02109 Postings here are general information only and not to be relied upon as advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "John" <john[at]infody.com> wrote: - quote - > My question is whether I can do per diem by myself
The answer is yes, but not without limitations. As an> later when filing the tax return. employee, your temporary living expenses must be figured on Form 2106. The totals from Form 2106 get carried to Schedule A as miscellaneous itemized deductions subject to the 2% of adjusted gross income (AGI) floor. Also, if the amount involved is large enough, and depending on other factors, you trigger an alternative minimum tax (AMT) liability. Barney Byrd barney_bird[at]msn.com To contact me directly, use the correct spelling of my last name in the e-mail address above. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "John" <john[at]infody.com> wrote: - quote - > I'm getting a contract that is located 150 miles away from
Appears to me to be a third-party subcontract. If that is> my home, but in the same state. I was told that they can > only do W2 with me, no 1099 or corp to corp. Since it is a > very short contract (~8 weeks), they can not do any per diem > on top of my pay. > My question is whether I can do per diem by myself later > when filing the tax return. the case, the general contractor can partition the rate to recognize expenses before or after the fact. The problem is they just don't want to do it. Estimate your expenses, multiply by .35, add that to the contract, and tell them to pay you that, partition the expenses, or find someone else. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I'm getting a contract that is located 150 miles away from my home, but in the same state. I was told that they can only do W2 with me, no 1099 or corp to corp. Since it is a very short contract (~8 weeks), they can not do any per diem on top of my pay. My question is whether I can do per diem by myself later when filing the tax return. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |