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Old 06-11-2004, 07:18 PM
Steve W
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Default Re: Non-Bank QIF Import


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> -----Original Message-----
> In microsoft.public.money, Steve W wrote:
> > Here's how I got the !Type:Bank.
> > I exported from Money the account I just imported using
> > the "As New or Recovered Account" option and compared
> > it to the QIF file I used to import in the first place.
> > The differences were that type line at the top of the

file
> > with information about the opening balance and the years
> > of the dates as ^2003. I did both Strict and Loose.
> > > When I say slow I am not talking about firing vi. I

added
> > the line through NotePad, but the time it took to import
> > the same file "As a bank statement" into an empty account
> > compared to importing it into an empty account using the
> > "As new or Recovered account". The actual time until the
> > 2209 transactions were imported and money gave me the

> I have no experience trying to read in thousands of

transactions all
> at once. This is presumably a one-time event.

No, this is more like a twice a year thing. These are
mostly Tax return checks which local municipalities issue
or the split of the taxes which was collect, but which
must be sent to the different school districts.

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> > import complete message. I figured it was trying to do
> > some type of reconciliation with the file it now thought
> > was a bank statment and, as you pointed out, looking
> > for duplicates.
> > > When you say to look for the record Money does not like

> > are you referring to the message I get about the file
> > being corrupted when I try to use the "As bank

statement"
> > option" or the not a QIF file or the not the right kind

of
> > transactions for this account messages I get when I use
> > the "As new or recovered account" option?

> Either. It seems to me that you would be able to isolate

the problem
> to certain records.
> http://cbbrowne.com/info/financeformats.html may be

useful.
>

Thanks I'll check this out.

- quote -

> > All of the transactions are imported when I keep telling
> > Money that "Yes", I still want to import even though it
> > thinks something is wrong with the file. This is during
> > the "As new or recovered account" option.

> Well, if you try a test with only the first 10 records,

do you get
> the error? 20, 100? You may be able to figure out what

Money does
> not feel easy about.


I'll try this and see, but money still does accept all of
the transactions.
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> .
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Old 06-10-2004, 08:50 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Non-Bank QIF Import

In microsoft.public.money, Steve W wrote:

- quote -

> Here's how I got the !Type:Bank.
> I exported from Money the account I just imported using
> the "As New or Recovered Account" option and compared
> it to the QIF file I used to import in the first place.
> The differences were that type line at the top of the file
> with information about the opening balance and the years
> of the dates as ^2003. I did both Strict and Loose.
> When I say slow I am not talking about firing vi. I added
> the line through NotePad, but the time it took to import
> the same file "As a bank statement" into an empty account
> compared to importing it into an empty account using the
> "As new or Recovered account". The actual time until the
> 2209 transactions were imported and money gave me the


I have no experience trying to read in thousands of transactions all
at once. This is presumably a one-time event.


- quote -

> import complete message. I figured it was trying to do
> some type of reconciliation with the file it now thought
> was a bank statment and, as you pointed out, looking
> for duplicates.
> When you say to look for the record Money does not like
> are you referring to the message I get about the file
> being corrupted when I try to use the "As bank statement"
> option" or the not a QIF file or the not the right kind of
> transactions for this account messages I get when I use
> the "As new or recovered account" option?


Either. It seems to me that you would be able to isolate the problem
to certain records.

http://cbbrowne.com/info/financeformats.html may be useful.
- quote -

> All of the transactions are imported when I keep telling
> Money that "Yes", I still want to import even though it
> thinks something is wrong with the file. This is during
> the "As new or recovered account" option.


Well, if you try a test with only the first 10 records, do you get
the error? 20, 100? You may be able to figure out what Money does
not feel easy about.

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Old 06-10-2004, 07:54 PM
Steve W
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Default Re: Non-Bank QIF Import

Here's how I got the !Type:Bank.
I exported from Money the account I just imported using
the "As New or Recovered Account" option and compared
it to the QIF file I used to import in the first place.
The differences were that type line at the top of the file
with information about the opening balance and the years
of the dates as ^2003. I did both Strict and Loose.

When I say slow I am not talking about firing vi. I added
the line through NotePad, but the time it took to import
the same file "As a bank statement" into an empty account
compared to importing it into an empty account using the
"As new or Recovered account". The actual time until the
2209 transactions were imported and money gave me the
import complete message. I figured it was trying to do
some type of reconciliation with the file it now thought
was a bank statment and, as you pointed out, looking
for duplicates.

When you say to look for the record Money does not like
are you referring to the message I get about the file
being corrupted when I try to use the "As bank statement"
option" or the not a QIF file or the not the right kind of
transactions for this account messages I get when I use
the "As new or recovered account" option?

All of the transactions are imported when I keep telling
Money that "Yes", I still want to import even though it
thinks something is wrong with the file. This is during
the "As new or recovered account" option.

- quote -

> -----Original Message-----
> In microsoft.public.money, Steve W wrote:
> > I have an UNIX program which creates a QIF formatted

file
> > which I FTP over to Windows and then import. I have

been
> > doing this in Qicken 98 for a while and am now thinking
> > about switching to MS Money. I've had no problems with
> > Quicken doing this. I've been working in Money 2003.
> > > The accounts in Money are set up as checking accounts.
> > > The transactions in the file are a list of checks to be

> > Printed.
> > > When I do the import, if I choose the "As a statement

from
> > my bank" I get an error saying the file is invalid or is
> > corrupted. If I choose "As a new or recovered account" I
> > get a message that the file does not appear to be a
> > Quicken file or is empty or does not have a .QIF

extension
> > (which it does). Money does ask me if I want to import
> > the file any way and after picking the acount, Money

tells
> > me that the file contains transactions for an account
> > that is not the same type as I'm trying to import
> > into. I can continue though and the import finishes

fine.
> New or recovered account does not check for duplicates.
> > > I've tried adding a !Type:Bank line at the top of my file

> > and Money will let me use the bank statement option, but
> > the import that way is way too slow.

> What do you mean by that? Are you saying it takes time to

fire up vi
> and typing that line in? Surely you can cat the required

line to the
> file.
> > > Is there something I need to add to the QIF file to get

> > rid of all the messages where Money is telling me I'm
> > doing something wrong, but lets me go ahead anyway?

> I would export a QIF file from the account in question.

Examine that
> file, and note the differences. You might try looking for

a
> particular record that Money does not like by working

with a test
> copy of your Money file, and importing stripped-down QIF

files for
> testing.
> > > Is there a different file type or layout I could be

> > creating to make this import smoother?

> Producing an OFX file would be a lot more work.
> .

 
Old 06-10-2004, 05:24 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Non-Bank QIF Import

In microsoft.public.money, Steve W wrote:

- quote -

> I have an UNIX program which creates a QIF formatted file
> which I FTP over to Windows and then import. I have been
> doing this in Qicken 98 for a while and am now thinking
> about switching to MS Money. I've had no problems with
> Quicken doing this. I've been working in Money 2003.
> The accounts in Money are set up as checking accounts.
> The transactions in the file are a list of checks to be
> Printed.
> When I do the import, if I choose the "As a statement from
> my bank" I get an error saying the file is invalid or is
> corrupted. If I choose "As a new or recovered account" I
> get a message that the file does not appear to be a
> Quicken file or is empty or does not have a .QIF extension
> (which it does). Money does ask me if I want to import
> the file any way and after picking the acount, Money tells
> me that the file contains transactions for an account
> that is not the same type as I'm trying to import
> into. I can continue though and the import finishes fine.


New or recovered account does not check for duplicates.
- quote -

> I've tried adding a !Type:Bank line at the top of my file
> and Money will let me use the bank statement option, but
> the import that way is way too slow.


What do you mean by that? Are you saying it takes time to fire up vi
and typing that line in? Surely you can cat the required line to the
file.


- quote -

> Is there something I need to add to the QIF file to get
> rid of all the messages where Money is telling me I'm
> doing something wrong, but lets me go ahead anyway?


I would export a QIF file from the account in question. Examine that
file, and note the differences. You might try looking for a
particular record that Money does not like by working with a test
copy of your Money file, and importing stripped-down QIF files for
testing.


- quote -

> Is there a different file type or layout I could be
> creating to make this import smoother?


Producing an OFX file would be a lot more work.

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Old 06-10-2004, 03:41 PM
Steve W
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Default Non-Bank QIF Import

I have an UNIX program which creates a QIF formatted file
which I FTP over to Windows and then import. I have been
doing this in Qicken 98 for a while and am now thinking
about switching to MS Money. I've had no problems with
Quicken doing this. I've been working in Money 2003.

The accounts in Money are set up as checking accounts.

The transactions in the file are a list of checks to be
Printed.

When I do the import, if I choose the "As a statement from
my bank" I get an error saying the file is invalid or is
corrupted. If I choose "As a new or recovered account" I
get a message that the file does not appear to be a
Quicken file or is empty or does not have a .QIF extension
(which it does). Money does ask me if I want to import
the file any way and after picking the acount, Money tells
me that the file contains transactions for an account
that is not the same type as I'm trying to import
into. I can continue though and the import finishes fine.

I've tried adding a !Type:Bank line at the top of my file
and Money will let me use the bank statement option, but
the import that way is way too slow.

Is there something I need to add to the QIF file to get
rid of all the messages where Money is telling me I'm
doing something wrong, but lets me go ahead anyway?

Is there a different file type or layout I could be
creating to make this import smoother?

Thanks
Steve
 

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