Technically speaking, they are called Worms which describes their
method of spreading. Most current In-The-Wild viruses are either Word
/ Excel macro viruses or worms spreading via email attachments. I
have seen viruses posted in news groups but only a computer dummy
would download and execute such a file. Most likely it is a worm and
the user's email client will be used to spread. Gone are the days of
MBR ( master boot record ) viruses spread via diskettes.

Professional spammers use "robotic" software to read all the news
group headers and extract likely looking email addresses.
Professional spam is very low cost advertising. Such mass email ads
are never viruses but the same methods could be used by a determined
anti-social virus writer or copy-cat. Most virus are never
intentionally released In-The-Wild nor are they intentionally harmful.
Naturally you only hear of the destructive virus via the media.

News servers are computers running an NNTP server. Each NNTP server
can carry the news groups they want to carry and skip any they want to
ignore. We even have groups that are copyrighted like your daily
newspaper and which require a fee.

The antivirus news group is alt.comp.virus where you will find
professional antivirus researchers willing to answer questions and
suggest fixes. www.virusbtn.com is the independent antivirus software
test lab located in the UK.

arthur
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 22:32:52 -0400, "Scott Tyler" says:
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"Jean Larson" <plarson3-at-tampabay-dot-rr-dot-com> wrote in message
news:A4Mwc.62770$0X2.2719306[at]twister.tampabay.rr.com...
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Money's portfolio hasn't changed much in the last few versions, though
beginning with Money 2003, online quotes are available for one year with
Standard and three years with Deluxe.

If your friend uses Money 2003 Standard, then she may lose the ability to
update quotes online at any time, if that hasn't happened already. If she
uses Money 2003 Deluxe, she should be able to update quotes online until
some time in 2005.

If she uses 2003 Standard and has lost online quotes, it may be more
cost-effective to wait until this summer when Money 2005 is released, than
upgrade to Money 2004 now.

Although there is an option to upgrade a Standard or Trial version to Deluxe
online, it is safer to buy a CD in a store, as many users have had
difficulty reinstalling and reactivating Money after a virus infection, hard
drive failure, etc.

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I have no direct experience with the Mozilla suite, but assuming it works
similarly to the Netscape Communicator suite (which was based on Mozilla),
you should be able to bring up a long list of settings from > Edit
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would want to change your email address for newsgroup posting to something
like "plarson3-at-tampabay-dot-rr-dot-com". If Mozilla doesn't work that
way anymore, you may be able to find instructions in the help file,
mozilla.org, or with a search engine. The practice of altering one's email
address to avoid spam and viruses is known as "munging".

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There are lots of ways for one's inbox to become a target for viruses, but
newsgroups became a bigger target last summer with the Swen.A virus, which
specifically targets a list of busy news servers, including this one.

--
Scott Tyler
agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com

The news groups are mined by the spammers. I use forteinc.com free
Agent which is a dedicated news reader. I also use Mozilla wherever
possible but hate to use a web browser for news groups so can not help
there. I'm also an Eudora fan ( from qualcomm ).

freeAgent requires a valid email domain but the user id can be junk so
you could call yourself n.o.s.p.a.m[at]msn.com for example.

My other tip for you is spamgourmet which I think you are capable of
deciphering. Properly used it will forever end your spam problems.

arthur
almost retired guru
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:33:20 GMT, Jean Larson wrote:
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Scott Tyler wrote:


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2003. If you think that we can update the stock prices in Money 2003
we will just remain with that version for now. I'll dump the Money
Trial 2004 because we haven't really done too much with it anyway.

You mentioned that I should configure my newsreader to not use my real
email address. I don't know how to do that. Could you please tell me.
I use Mozilla as my browser?

I do get a lot of viruses coming in to my mailbox that I just delete
because my Norton picks them up. I never thought maybe from Newsgroups
I am getting all this junk.

Thanks for all your help.

Jean

"Jean Larson" <plarson3-at-tampabay-dot-rr-dot-com> wrote in message
news:JLmwc.45461$w34.1731522[at]twister.tampabay.rr.com...
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The Money data file upgraded by Money 2004 is *not* backward-compatible with
Money 2003. When the trial expires, your friend will either have to upgrade
to Money 2004 (or Money 2005, if it's out by then), or reinstall Money 2003
and open the *.m11 data file left from the Money 2004 conversion, losing all
the data input since the conversion.

If she doesn't intend to upgrade, it would be best to reinstall Money 2003
and return to using the pre-conversion file as soon as possible.

I'm assuming the earlier suggestion about downloading the Money 2004 trial
was so that you could learn how to use Money on your own system.

--
Scott Tyler
agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com

PS: You should also configure your newsreader to not use your real email
address. Some of the worms unleashed in the last year can harvest email
addresses from usenet posts. Posts on this server expire after 30 or so
days. If you do begin receiving worms, it should stop by itself after your
posts expire.

This is supposed to be possible--provided things like the investment symbols
are set correctly in the investment details. When the call completes have
you looked at the detailed call status (Click here for call summary or
something like that)?

"Jean Larson" <plarson3[at]tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:JLmwc.45461$w34.1731522[at]twister.tampabay.rr.com...
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Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
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I have been trying to understand this Money 2004 but I am stuck on
something and hope you can answer me.

I went over to my friend's house and we downloaded a trial version of
Money 2004 (she already had 2003) but I thought we would try the latest.

She has several stocks, Walgreens, Pepsico, Harley Davidson that she had
in the old version and it imported them into the new 2004. In the
accounts manager they have the dates sometime in January 2004. I guess
that is the last time she put anything in them. Now, what we have been
trying to do is update the stock prices to reflect the June 4th date but
without luck.

My question is, do we have to look at the internet and write down from
her Yahoo web page the final price of the date and then go back to Money
2004 and update them ourselves. We thought that on the left side it
said "Update Online". Well it connects to the internet and said the
call is completed but we didn't see anything else, and it didn't update
her Walgreen stocks either the money or the date. Are we trying to do
something impossible or is it supposed to update the information in her
money program.

We are totally lost. Please see if you can explain it to us. We tried
and printed out information but it is not making sense.

Jean

Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
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Thank you, I will certainly do as you suggested and I appreciate the advice.


Jean

Glyn Simpson, MVP wrote:
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Thanks for your help. We will download the trial version and see if we
can understand it.

Jean

In microsoft.public.money, Jean Larson wrote:

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A book will tend to guide you thru aspects that you won't need. Your
friend has a good objective laid out. For now omit setting up the
other areas. If Money asks if you are interested in a subject, think
of that as Money asking if you want to be prompted by Money to do
those things. Just stick to your objective.

I would create an investment account for each broker or other
financial institution that holds stock, bond, etc. Create one more
to represent the certificates in the safe deposit box.

I would then enter a Buy transaction for each security currently
held, using the data available. If part of the information is an
estimate, record that in the Memo field.

When you sell a security, enter a Sell. Money will tell you the
information to help fill out schedule D by hand, or -- better yet--
provide the data to be used by TaxCut or TurboTax.

To summarize, you don't have to use all aspects of Money that a
tutorial will tend to guide you thru. You can do better to
concentrate on what is important to you. See
http://www.microsoft.com/money/support/manual/ for some reading.

I agree with Glyn's suggestion of downloading the trial version. So far
as a book, Money 2003 for Dummies is a rasonable book.

Glyn Simpson, MVP wrote:
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The best thing to do would be to download the trial version and see what it
does for you. You can get it from http://www.microsoft.com/money

There are a number of third party books out there also, which maybe useful
once you've seen the program (can't recommend any though).

--
Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money

Check http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny
for UK tips and fixes for MS Money. To send Microsoft your wishes or
suggestions, use http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or email mnyukwsh[at]microsoft.com especially if it's a UK specific wish.

I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money

"Jean Larson" <plarson3[at]tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:KExuc.16980$w34.781007[at]twister.tampabay.rr.com...
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money is a problematic program , i suggest a spreadshhet, and let Bill Gates
eat rice a roni for a while

"Jean Larson" <plarson3[at]tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:KExuc.16980$w34.781007[at]twister.tampabay.rr.com...
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Hi,

I have a friend who is quite elderly and she wants to try to put all her
investments in the Money 2003 program that is on her computer. She has
Mutual Funds, Money Markets, Stocks, Bonds, etc.

I really don't know anything about the Money Program so I can help her.
Do you know where I can get some information on the Money Program so I
can help her and myself get her started.

Jean