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Old 04-25-2004, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: Child/Elder Care Flexible Spending account how to?

You weren't wrong in assuming that I already had accounts
in Money. I just didn't understand the use of the third
account.

Thanks for your help


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> -----Original Message-----
> Well, I guess I don't know what accounts you already have

modeled in Money.
> I was assuming you were already tracking finances in

Money. This led to
> assumption that you were already tracking paychecks going

into, typically, a
> checking account named, say, Checking.
> In this case, you add one account to Money, a Cash

Account, name something
> similar to "Flex Spending". Then you modify the paychecks

you are already
> tracking by adding a Transfer:Flex Spending to the before

tax deductions
> tab.
> If you write a check for, say, child care expenses, you'd

enter a Money
> transaction in the Checking account with category, say,

Child Care:Flex
> Eligible or something similar. Then you submit the

expense to the account
> processor. They send you a check. You deposit the check

in your checking
> account. You enter a Money transaction in Flex Spending

that is
> Transfer:Checking.
> The problem with this simple approach is it ignores the

problem of tracking
> your pending reimbursements. Solutions to this problem

follow.
> The third account I mentioned was just an account to

track the
> expenses/reimbursement in one account. In this case, in

addition to the Flex
> Spending Cash Account and the Paycheck Transfer to put

the money in it,
> you'd add a Money Asset account "Flex Reimbursement

Pending" or similar. (I
> think I said Liability in the previous posting. The more

I think about it,
> that was stupid advice.)
> If you write a check for, say, child care expenses, you'd

enter a Money
> transaction in the Checking account with category, say,

Child Care:Flex
> Eligible or something similar. Then you submit the

expense to the account
> processor. Then you add a credit to the Flex

Reimbursement Pending Account
> categorized something like Other Income:Insurance

Reimbursement Pending.
> They send you a check. You deposit the check in your

checking account. You
> enter a Money transaction in Flex Spending that is

Transfer:Checking. Then
> you also enter a deduction in the Flex Reimbursement

Pending Account
> categorized like Insurance:Flex Reimbursement in the same

amount as the
> reimbursement you just deposited.
> Another similar scenario is to just create the expense

transactions (say
> when you pay the child care expense from checking) as

transfers to the Asset
> Account, not an expense.
> There are lots of other ways this whole thing could be

done including just
> ignoring the whole reimbursement account and treating it

just like
> insurance--which in a sense it is since it has cost that

is de-coupled from
> reimbursement. With this approach, in your paycheck,

you'd expense the flex
> amount as Insurance:Flex or similar and then call the

reimbursements Other
> Income:Flex Reimbursement or similar.
> There's no one right answer.
> "Bob" <anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
> news:3f7c01c42ad7$10167920$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > Please be more specific on how accounts would work.

After
> > reading your response it sounds like I need three

accounts.
> > > Checking for paycheck

> > Cash for FSA
> > Account for dispursement of spending account Aetna i.e.
> > > Do I undestand you correctly?

> .

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Old 04-25-2004, 04:21 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Child/Elder Care Flexible Spending account how to?

Well, I guess I don't know what accounts you already have modeled in Money.

I was assuming you were already tracking finances in Money. This led to
assumption that you were already tracking paychecks going into, typically, a
checking account named, say, Checking.

In this case, you add one account to Money, a Cash Account, name something
similar to "Flex Spending". Then you modify the paychecks you are already
tracking by adding a Transfer:Flex Spending to the before tax deductions
tab.

If you write a check for, say, child care expenses, you'd enter a Money
transaction in the Checking account with category, say, Child Care:Flex
Eligible or something similar. Then you submit the expense to the account
processor. They send you a check. You deposit the check in your checking
account. You enter a Money transaction in Flex Spending that is
Transfer:Checking.

The problem with this simple approach is it ignores the problem of tracking
your pending reimbursements. Solutions to this problem follow.

The third account I mentioned was just an account to track the
expenses/reimbursement in one account. In this case, in addition to the Flex
Spending Cash Account and the Paycheck Transfer to put the money in it,
you'd add a Money Asset account "Flex Reimbursement Pending" or similar. (I
think I said Liability in the previous posting. The more I think about it,
that was stupid advice.)

If you write a check for, say, child care expenses, you'd enter a Money
transaction in the Checking account with category, say, Child Care:Flex
Eligible or something similar. Then you submit the expense to the account
processor. Then you add a credit to the Flex Reimbursement Pending Account
categorized something like Other Income:Insurance Reimbursement Pending.
They send you a check. You deposit the check in your checking account. You
enter a Money transaction in Flex Spending that is Transfer:Checking. Then
you also enter a deduction in the Flex Reimbursement Pending Account
categorized like Insurance:Flex Reimbursement in the same amount as the
reimbursement you just deposited.

Another similar scenario is to just create the expense transactions (say
when you pay the child care expense from checking) as transfers to the Asset
Account, not an expense.

There are lots of other ways this whole thing could be done including just
ignoring the whole reimbursement account and treating it just like
insurance--which in a sense it is since it has cost that is de-coupled from
reimbursement. With this approach, in your paycheck, you'd expense the flex
amount as Insurance:Flex or similar and then call the reimbursements Other
Income:Flex Reimbursement or similar.

There's no one right answer.

"Bob" <anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3f7c01c42ad7$10167920$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Please be more specific on how accounts would work. After
> reading your response it sounds like I need three accounts.
> Checking for paycheck
> Cash for FSA
> Account for dispursement of spending account Aetna i.e.
> Do I undestand you correctly?



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Old 04-25-2004, 03:07 PM
Bob
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Default Re: Child/Elder Care Flexible Spending account how to?

Please be more specific on how accounts would work. After
reading your response it sounds like I need three accounts.

Checking for paycheck
Cash for FSA
Account for dispursement of spending account Aetna i.e.

Do I undestand you correctly?

Thanks

- quote -

> -----Original Message-----
> The basic drill is to create a cash account and then

transfer the portion of
> your paycheck funding it from the paycheck to the

account. When you get a
> disbursement, do this as a transfer from the flex account

to the account you
> deposit their check in. The balance of the flex account

should hit $0 at
> then end of the plan year. I.e., you've draw everything

you've contributed.
> The tougher problem is how to keep track of expenses that

qualify. There
> aren't any really good ways here, since these expenses

typically need to be
> recorded in existing accounts like your checking. Some

people use
> classification or categorization so that they can

identify what should be
> reimbursed. Others enter the transactions both in the

account that spent the
> money and in a "pretend" liability account. Then they do

the same with the
> disbursements. This would have implications on reporting,

however, since you
> get the money twice. In my case, I keep track of the flex

accounts in Excel
> and just manage the cash in Money.
> "Bob" <anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
> news:3c3a01c42a7a$0d7c6790$a601280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > How do you set up a Flexible spending account?
> > > Thanks

> .

 
Old 04-25-2004, 02:03 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Child/Elder Care Flexible Spending account how to?

The basic drill is to create a cash account and then transfer the portion of
your paycheck funding it from the paycheck to the account. When you get a
disbursement, do this as a transfer from the flex account to the account you
deposit their check in. The balance of the flex account should hit $0 at
then end of the plan year. I.e., you've draw everything you've contributed.

The tougher problem is how to keep track of expenses that qualify. There
aren't any really good ways here, since these expenses typically need to be
recorded in existing accounts like your checking. Some people use
classification or categorization so that they can identify what should be
reimbursed. Others enter the transactions both in the account that spent the
money and in a "pretend" liability account. Then they do the same with the
disbursements. This would have implications on reporting, however, since you
get the money twice. In my case, I keep track of the flex accounts in Excel
and just manage the cash in Money.

"Bob" <anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3c3a01c42a7a$0d7c6790$a601280a[at]phx.gbl...
- quote -

> How do you set up a Flexible spending account?
> Thanks



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Old 04-25-2004, 04:01 AM
Bob
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Default Child/Elder Care Flexible Spending account how to?

How do you set up a Flexible spending account?

Thanks
 

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