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Old 02-18-2004, 03:40 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Investment purchases an expense?

If the cash is getting transferred to the cash account (a good thing), and
you are downloading the buy information (an OK thing), why are you putting
the buys in as Add Shares--thus forcing this situation that you don't want
closing the loop on the cash balance--not Buys??? Buys would solve all of
this in one fell swoop. The shares would accumulate. The cash would stay
true. There would be no bogus expense.

"Tommy Becker" <twbecker[at]nc.removeme.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, so I realized that if I simply delete the Adjustments, my balance
> will just keep going up and up in the cash account. Should I also
> delete the contribution transactions and leave the amount unassigned in
> the paycheck split??
> Dick Watson wrote:
> > I hear you to say that there are two separate transactions. An Add

Shares in
> > the Investment Account and some bogus transaction in the Cash Account.
> > Delete the latter. There's nothing to categorize since it's not an

expense.
> > Either put it in the right way--recognize the income somewhere, transfer

it
> > to the cash account, and buy the shares with this cash--or just leave

the
> > Add Shares alone and delete the cash transaction.
> > > "Tommy Becker" <twbecker[at]nc.removeme.rr.com> wrote in message

> > news:eRoSXhO9DHA.1592[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > I have a 401k set up in Money. I do not and never have entered the
> > > individual Buy Investment transactions since I didn't think it was worth
> > > the effort for a tax deferred retirement account. So I simply let Money
> > > update my positions with Add Shares transactions when I download them
> > > from Fidelity bi-weekly. The problem is that Money debits the cash
> > > portion of the account and assigns it to "Account Adjustment", category
> > > unassigned. This then shows up as an expense on my monthly report. Is
> > > there any way I can categorize these adjustments such that they don't
> > > masquerade as expenses?

> >

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Old 02-18-2004, 03:29 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Investment purchases an expense?

An Add Shares is specifically NOT meaningful if you have the cash portion
ergo having a transfer account for an add shares has no meaning. If you know
how many shares and you know where the cash came from and how much cash it
was, voila!, you've got all of the ingredients for a Buy Shares transaction.
Add Shares exists precisely for the case where you do not have these
ingredients. See the other fork of the thread for more.

"Tommy Becker" <twbecker[at]nc.removeme.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Geez ya know, that actually makes sense. I never thought to simply
> delete the transactions entirely. It would be nice though if you could
> specify a transfer account for Add Shares transactions so that you
> wouldn't have to do that. Or simply not force you into using a cash
> portion to begin with.



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Old 02-17-2004, 06:33 PM
Tommy Becker
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Default Re: Investment purchases an expense?

Ok, so I realized that if I simply delete the Adjustments, my balance
will just keep going up and up in the cash account. Should I also
delete the contribution transactions and leave the amount unassigned in
the paycheck split??

Dick Watson wrote:

- quote -

> I hear you to say that there are two separate transactions. An Add Shares in
> the Investment Account and some bogus transaction in the Cash Account.
> Delete the latter. There's nothing to categorize since it's not an expense.
> Either put it in the right way--recognize the income somewhere, transfer it
> to the cash account, and buy the shares with this cash--or just leave the
> Add Shares alone and delete the cash transaction.
> "Tommy Becker" <twbecker[at]nc.removeme.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:eRoSXhO9DHA.1592[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I have a 401k set up in Money. I do not and never have entered the
> > individual Buy Investment transactions since I didn't think it was worth
> > the effort for a tax deferred retirement account. So I simply let Money
> > update my positions with Add Shares transactions when I download them
> > from Fidelity bi-weekly. The problem is that Money debits the cash
> > portion of the account and assigns it to "Account Adjustment", category
> > unassigned. This then shows up as an expense on my monthly report. Is
> > there any way I can categorize these adjustments such that they don't
> > masquerade as expenses?

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Old 02-17-2004, 06:28 PM
Tommy Becker
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Default Re: Investment purchases an expense?

Geez ya know, that actually makes sense. I never thought to simply
delete the transactions entirely. It would be nice though if you could
specify a transfer account for Add Shares transactions so that you
wouldn't have to do that. Or simply not force you into using a cash
portion to begin with.

Dick Watson wrote:
- quote -

> I hear you to say that there are two separate transactions. An Add Shares in
> the Investment Account and some bogus transaction in the Cash Account.
> Delete the latter. There's nothing to categorize since it's not an expense.
> Either put it in the right way--recognize the income somewhere, transfer it
> to the cash account, and buy the shares with this cash--or just leave the
> Add Shares alone and delete the cash transaction.
> "Tommy Becker" <twbecker[at]nc.removeme.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:eRoSXhO9DHA.1592[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I have a 401k set up in Money. I do not and never have entered the
> > individual Buy Investment transactions since I didn't think it was worth
> > the effort for a tax deferred retirement account. So I simply let Money
> > update my positions with Add Shares transactions when I download them
> > from Fidelity bi-weekly. The problem is that Money debits the cash
> > portion of the account and assigns it to "Account Adjustment", category
> > unassigned. This then shows up as an expense on my monthly report. Is
> > there any way I can categorize these adjustments such that they don't
> > masquerade as expenses?

 
Old 02-17-2004, 12:39 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Investment purchases an expense?

I hear you to say that there are two separate transactions. An Add Shares in
the Investment Account and some bogus transaction in the Cash Account.
Delete the latter. There's nothing to categorize since it's not an expense.
Either put it in the right way--recognize the income somewhere, transfer it
to the cash account, and buy the shares with this cash--or just leave the
Add Shares alone and delete the cash transaction.

"Tommy Becker" <twbecker[at]nc.removeme.rr.com> wrote in message
news:eRoSXhO9DHA.1592[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> I have a 401k set up in Money. I do not and never have entered the
> individual Buy Investment transactions since I didn't think it was worth
> the effort for a tax deferred retirement account. So I simply let Money
> update my positions with Add Shares transactions when I download them
> from Fidelity bi-weekly. The problem is that Money debits the cash
> portion of the account and assigns it to "Account Adjustment", category
> unassigned. This then shows up as an expense on my monthly report. Is
> there any way I can categorize these adjustments such that they don't
> masquerade as expenses?



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Old 02-16-2004, 10:55 PM
Tommy Becker
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Default Investment purchases an expense?

I have a 401k set up in Money. I do not and never have entered the
individual Buy Investment transactions since I didn't think it was worth
the effort for a tax deferred retirement account. So I simply let Money
update my positions with Add Shares transactions when I download them
from Fidelity bi-weekly. The problem is that Money debits the cash
portion of the account and assigns it to "Account Adjustment", category
unassigned. This then shows up as an expense on my monthly report. Is
there any way I can categorize these adjustments such that they don't
masquerade as expenses?
 

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