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  #11  
Old 07-11-2003, 10:28 AM
DCIFRTHS
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

I have unchecked the checkbox, and when I download the statement, I get an
"E" in place of the "R". This is how it worked in version 2002.

When my paper statement arrives, I reconcile the transactions by changing
the "E" to an "R". I believe that this is going to work for me, as the
starting balance is now correct when I choose to balance the account.

I'll post back after getting my next paper statement.

"RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MUZNa.178038$nr.8181421[at]twister.southeast.rr.com...
- quote -

> So what should the correct setting be? Uncheck the box totally? Then do
you
> wait until you get your paper statement and manually show the transaction
as
> reconciled?
> Thanks
> "DCIFRTHS" <nodcifrths[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:um2tWMqQDHA.1024[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > One of my main problems was that I was set to automatically mark
> > transactions as reconciled. I must have set it that way without
realizing
> > what I was doing. Big mistake.
> > > I'm balanced now, with an adjustment, so we'll see what happens next
> month.
> > I'll post back.
> > > Thanks for all the help.
> > > > "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23z50GcPQDHA.2832[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > I guess it depends on how much you want to just accept as correct
and/or
> > > write off as account adjustment.
> > > > > There won't be much of any way to just do the last statement except to
> a)
> > > accept whatever starting balance Money proposes, and b) start marking
> > older
> > > transactions as cleared regardless of whether they are on the
statement.
> > > > > You could do one statement at a time starting at the oldest one. This
> will
> > > be tedious.
> > > > > The reason to balance is to make sure that your view of the world
> matches
> > > the bank's view. If you don't care or are in a position where the
value
> of
> > > answering the question appears small compared to the effort to do so,
> > where
> > > you may be, then just enter the statement ending balance in the
balance
> > > dialog box, clear everything that you know is on the statement or
should
> > be
> > > older than the statement, and let Money do any required account
> > adjustments
> > > to make it balance. The only thing is to be very careful about very
> recent
> > > transactions that aren't on the statement you are aligning to and will
> be
> > on
> > > the next or you'll be hosed then, too.
> > > > > "RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:MVJMa.221644$jp.5816558[at]twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > > > It has been since March of 2003 since I tried to balance my checking
> > > > account. Should I gather my statements since March and try to figure
> it
> > > our
> > > > or would I be better off starting with my last statement and trying
to
> > > make
> > > > it work?
> > > > >
  #10  
Old 07-07-2003, 03:18 AM
Chris Cowles
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

I'm the opposite of Dick and download everything I can. I agree with his
opinion, though, with respect to the disabling the automatic reconciling.

Manual reconciling is the only reality check remaining, if you download
everything automatically. That works well for me because all I really have
to do is enter the reconcile date and ending balance. 99% of the time, it
balances with only that. When it doesn't, it's usually because a transaction
didn't get downloaded, or got duplicated through stupidity on my part.

If I didn't reconcile manually, I'd never know that.
--
Chris Cowles,
Gainesville, FL

"RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:s03Oa.239679$jp.6484105[at]twister.southeast.rr.com...
- quote -

> Again, Thanks Dick. I will give it a try.
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:etpjCOBRDHA.560[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > My bet is that that would work better. But I'm a Just Say No curmudgeon
on
> > the subject of downloaded transaction data.
> > > "RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:MUZNa.178038$nr.8181421[at]twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > > So what should the correct setting be? Uncheck the box totally? Then
do
> > you
> > > wait until you get your paper statement and manually show the
> transaction
> > as
> > > reconciled?
>
  #9  
Old 07-07-2003, 12:19 AM
RHinNC
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

Again, Thanks Dick. I will give it a try.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:etpjCOBRDHA.560[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> My bet is that that would work better. But I'm a Just Say No curmudgeon on
> the subject of downloaded transaction data.
> "RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MUZNa.178038$nr.8181421[at]twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > So what should the correct setting be? Uncheck the box totally? Then do
> you
> > wait until you get your paper statement and manually show the
transaction
> as
> > reconciled?


  #8  
Old 07-06-2003, 11:06 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

My bet is that that would work better. But I'm a Just Say No curmudgeon on
the subject of downloaded transaction data.

"RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MUZNa.178038$nr.8181421[at]twister.southeast.rr.com...
- quote -

> So what should the correct setting be? Uncheck the box totally? Then do
you
> wait until you get your paper statement and manually show the transaction
as
> reconciled?


  #7  
Old 07-06-2003, 06:30 PM
RHinNC
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

So what should the correct setting be? Uncheck the box totally? Then do you
wait until you get your paper statement and manually show the transaction as
reconciled?

Thanks

"DCIFRTHS" <nodcifrths[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:um2tWMqQDHA.1024[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> One of my main problems was that I was set to automatically mark
> transactions as reconciled. I must have set it that way without realizing
> what I was doing. Big mistake.
> I'm balanced now, with an adjustment, so we'll see what happens next
month.
> I'll post back.
> Thanks for all the help.
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23z50GcPQDHA.2832[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I guess it depends on how much you want to just accept as correct and/or
> > write off as account adjustment.
> > > There won't be much of any way to just do the last statement except to
a)
> > accept whatever starting balance Money proposes, and b) start marking
> older
> > transactions as cleared regardless of whether they are on the statement.
> > > You could do one statement at a time starting at the oldest one. This
will
> > be tedious.
> > > The reason to balance is to make sure that your view of the world
matches
> > the bank's view. If you don't care or are in a position where the value
of
> > answering the question appears small compared to the effort to do so,
> where
> > you may be, then just enter the statement ending balance in the balance
> > dialog box, clear everything that you know is on the statement or should
> be
> > older than the statement, and let Money do any required account
> adjustments
> > to make it balance. The only thing is to be very careful about very
recent
> > transactions that aren't on the statement you are aligning to and will
be
> on
> > the next or you'll be hosed then, too.
> > > "RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:MVJMa.221644$jp.5816558[at]twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > > It has been since March of 2003 since I tried to balance my checking
> > > account. Should I gather my statements since March and try to figure
it
> > our
> > > or would I be better off starting with my last statement and trying to
> > make
> > > it work?
>
  #6  
Old 07-05-2003, 03:11 AM
DCIFRTHS
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

One of my main problems was that I was set to automatically mark
transactions as reconciled. I must have set it that way without realizing
what I was doing. Big mistake.

I'm balanced now, with an adjustment, so we'll see what happens next month.
I'll post back.

Thanks for all the help.


"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:%23z50GcPQDHA.2832[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> I guess it depends on how much you want to just accept as correct and/or
> write off as account adjustment.
> There won't be much of any way to just do the last statement except to a)
> accept whatever starting balance Money proposes, and b) start marking
older
> transactions as cleared regardless of whether they are on the statement.
> You could do one statement at a time starting at the oldest one. This will
> be tedious.
> The reason to balance is to make sure that your view of the world matches
> the bank's view. If you don't care or are in a position where the value of
> answering the question appears small compared to the effort to do so,
where
> you may be, then just enter the statement ending balance in the balance
> dialog box, clear everything that you know is on the statement or should
be
> older than the statement, and let Money do any required account
adjustments
> to make it balance. The only thing is to be very careful about very recent
> transactions that aren't on the statement you are aligning to and will be
on
> the next or you'll be hosed then, too.
> "RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MVJMa.221644$jp.5816558[at]twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > It has been since March of 2003 since I tried to balance my checking
> > account. Should I gather my statements since March and try to figure it
> our
> > or would I be better off starting with my last statement and trying to
> make
> > it work?


  #5  
Old 07-03-2003, 12:05 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

I guess it depends on how much you want to just accept as correct and/or
write off as account adjustment.

There won't be much of any way to just do the last statement except to a)
accept whatever starting balance Money proposes, and b) start marking older
transactions as cleared regardless of whether they are on the statement.

You could do one statement at a time starting at the oldest one. This will
be tedious.

The reason to balance is to make sure that your view of the world matches
the bank's view. If you don't care or are in a position where the value of
answering the question appears small compared to the effort to do so, where
you may be, then just enter the statement ending balance in the balance
dialog box, clear everything that you know is on the statement or should be
older than the statement, and let Money do any required account adjustments
to make it balance. The only thing is to be very careful about very recent
transactions that aren't on the statement you are aligning to and will be on
the next or you'll be hosed then, too.

"RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MVJMa.221644$jp.5816558[at]twister.southeast.rr.com...
- quote -

> It has been since March of 2003 since I tried to balance my checking
> account. Should I gather my statements since March and try to figure it
our
> or would I be better off starting with my last statement and trying to
make
> it work?


  #4  
Old 07-02-2003, 11:29 PM
RHinNC
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

Thanks Dick.

It has been since March of 2003 since I tried to balance my checking
account. Should I gather my statements since March and try to figure it our
or would I be better off starting with my last statement and trying to make
it work?

Thanks for your help, it is appreciated.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:OS3W5BEQDHA.2248[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> On the first point, I'm saying that with downloaded transaction data in
the
> loop, there seem (based on reports, I do as I say and Just Say No to
> downloaded transaction data) to be very many issues that can cause
problems
> at the worst and inject lots of confusion at the least. M03, in
particular,
> has had many issues with the behavior of the various Tools|Options|Online
> Services|Automatically mark flag. If you aren't downloading any of their
> data you know better what's getting in the register. But I'm not really
the
> best to address these issues as I don't mess with it.
> As to the second issue, you are looking for scheduled items that are
marked
> as reconciled even though they aren't even entered in the register yet.
> These items will enter "pre-reconciled" and wreak havoc on a starting
> balance. Various ways to identify:
> 1) watch them carefully when entering into the register from Bills &
> Deposits. The dialog box will have a Reconciled flag in the (IIRC) lower
> right corner.
> 2) when you get a beginning balance mismatch, abort the balance and go
> directly to looking in the account register for an item marked reconciled
> that was not marked that way at the last balance. If you find one, ask how
> it got that way which may lead you to:
> 3) You can start to enter any scheduled item into the register, look for
the
> effect noted in #1 above, and click cancel.
> "RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OtwCWGDQDHA.2424[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > I really would like to figure this out. You have raised a couple of
points
> > that I need a little clarification on.
> > > When I get a get information from my bank that a check has cleared you
are
> > saying not to accept it? Since I always have and never had a problem
until
> > upgrading to 2003 last August I don't understand.
> > > I did have a couple of scheduled items that I used in 2002, but am
> confused
> > about your statement "..to find the scheduled item, delete it and
> re-create
> > it manually" How do I find the old scheduled items?


  #3  
Old 07-02-2003, 02:20 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

On the first point, I'm saying that with downloaded transaction data in the
loop, there seem (based on reports, I do as I say and Just Say No to
downloaded transaction data) to be very many issues that can cause problems
at the worst and inject lots of confusion at the least. M03, in particular,
has had many issues with the behavior of the various Tools|Options|Online
Services|Automatically mark flag. If you aren't downloading any of their
data you know better what's getting in the register. But I'm not really the
best to address these issues as I don't mess with it.

As to the second issue, you are looking for scheduled items that are marked
as reconciled even though they aren't even entered in the register yet.
These items will enter "pre-reconciled" and wreak havoc on a starting
balance. Various ways to identify:

1) watch them carefully when entering into the register from Bills &
Deposits. The dialog box will have a Reconciled flag in the (IIRC) lower
right corner.

2) when you get a beginning balance mismatch, abort the balance and go
directly to looking in the account register for an item marked reconciled
that was not marked that way at the last balance. If you find one, ask how
it got that way which may lead you to:

3) You can start to enter any scheduled item into the register, look for the
effect noted in #1 above, and click cancel.

"RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OtwCWGDQDHA.2424[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> I really would like to figure this out. You have raised a couple of points
> that I need a little clarification on.
> When I get a get information from my bank that a check has cleared you are
> saying not to accept it? Since I always have and never had a problem until
> upgrading to 2003 last August I don't understand.
> I did have a couple of scheduled items that I used in 2002, but am
confused
> about your statement "..to find the scheduled item, delete it and
re-create
> it manually" How do I find the old scheduled items?


  #2  
Old 07-02-2003, 12:33 AM
RHinNC
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

I really would like to figure this out. You have raised a couple of points
that I need a little clarification on.

When I get a get information from my bank that a check has cleared you are
saying not to accept it? Since I always have and never had a problem until
upgrading to 2003 last August I don't understand.

I did have a couple of scheduled items that I used in 2002, but am confused
about your statement "..to find the scheduled item, delete it and re-create
it manually" How do I find the old scheduled items?

Thanks for you help..

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:#5d7GQwPDHA.1148[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> This is really quite simple. You need to do one thing to figure this out:
> write down the reconciled ending balance this month. Next month, check to
> see if that same balance is the starting balance. If not, somehow you are
> getting transactions recorded as reconciled in the interim. This can be
> caused by issues related to downloaded transaction data. (As always, I
> recommend Just Saying No to downloaded transaction data.) It can also be
> cause by M02 scheduled items that were scheduled from a reconciled
> transaction. You will have to find the scheduled item, delete it and
> re-create it manually.
> You need to find the transactions that are reconciled that were not in
last
> month's reconciled balance and mark them as unreconciled.
> But you are more than welcome to switch to Quicken:
> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...348630&loc=105
> "DCIFRTHS" <nodcifrths[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ehpv4AuPDHA.3192[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > While I am sorry that you are having this problem, I am glad to see that
I
> > am not alone. This is a major problem for me, and I am seriously
> considering
> > switching to Quicken.


  #1  
Old 06-30-2003, 12:35 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

This is really quite simple. You need to do one thing to figure this out:
write down the reconciled ending balance this month. Next month, check to
see if that same balance is the starting balance. If not, somehow you are
getting transactions recorded as reconciled in the interim. This can be
caused by issues related to downloaded transaction data. (As always, I
recommend Just Saying No to downloaded transaction data.) It can also be
cause by M02 scheduled items that were scheduled from a reconciled
transaction. You will have to find the scheduled item, delete it and
re-create it manually.

You need to find the transactions that are reconciled that were not in last
month's reconciled balance and mark them as unreconciled.

But you are more than welcome to switch to Quicken:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...348630&loc=105

"DCIFRTHS" <nodcifrths[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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- quote -

> While I am sorry that you are having this problem, I am glad to see that I
> am not alone. This is a major problem for me, and I am seriously
considering
> switching to Quicken.


 
Old 06-30-2003, 08:18 AM
DCIFRTHS
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

While I am sorry that you are having this problem, I am glad to see that I
am not alone. This is a major problem for me, and I am seriously considering
switching to Quicken.

All opinions welcome.

Thanks


"RHinNC" <rhinnc[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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- quote -

> I have a similar problem. You can go back 6 months in this newsgroup and
see
> what was recommended. I tried them all, nothing worked. I could manually
> make things balance, but the next month I would have the same problem.
> I finally gave up and just balance manually each month. Not what I want to
> do since I've been using money since the first version. Too much stuff to
> setup again.
> "DCIFRTHS" <nodcifrths[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uCZOYAiPDHA.1584[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > I upgraded from Money 2002 to Money 2003 many months ago. Money
upgraded
> > the data file during the upgrade. Since my upgrade, I have never been
able
> > to properly balance any of my accounts. I usually get a message that my
> > starting balance is wrong. I allow Money to make an adjustment, so that
> the
> > account balances, and the following month I get the same problem.
> > > I have tried the "-s" option to start Money, but this has not helped. I
> even
> > closed one of the checking accounts in Money, and then I created a new
> one.
> > I figured that I would start from scratch, and refer to the closed
account
> > as necessary. When I download the statement from my bank, NONE of the
> items
> > are recognized or imported , and I get an empty account....
> > > Any ideas as to what might be wrong? If not, any ideas as to how I can
> just
> > fix this problem?
> > > Thanks
>
  #-1  
Old 06-29-2003, 10:21 PM
RHinNC
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Default Re: Balancing does not work.

I have a similar problem. You can go back 6 months in this newsgroup and see
what was recommended. I tried them all, nothing worked. I could manually
make things balance, but the next month I would have the same problem.

I finally gave up and just balance manually each month. Not what I want to
do since I've been using money since the first version. Too much stuff to
setup again.

"DCIFRTHS" <nodcifrths[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uCZOYAiPDHA.1584[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> I upgraded from Money 2002 to Money 2003 many months ago. Money upgraded
> the data file during the upgrade. Since my upgrade, I have never been able
> to properly balance any of my accounts. I usually get a message that my
> starting balance is wrong. I allow Money to make an adjustment, so that
the
> account balances, and the following month I get the same problem.
> I have tried the "-s" option to start Money, but this has not helped. I
even
> closed one of the checking accounts in Money, and then I created a new
one.
> I figured that I would start from scratch, and refer to the closed account
> as necessary. When I download the statement from my bank, NONE of the
items
> are recognized or imported , and I get an empty account....
> Any ideas as to what might be wrong? If not, any ideas as to how I can
just
> fix this problem?
> Thanks


 

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