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Old 01-17-2004, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: Realized gain / basis M2004 deluxe

But that's it:this is my only holding right now in this fund.
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> > > $3,086.48 current basis of the new, (only ) 85.831 shares.
> > -$3,001.50 cost
> > ------------------
> > $84.98 gain / 3,001.50 = 2.83125% gain

Let's just say I owned 100,000 of it and I had reinvested div of $5000.
That is history. I sold it ALL last year.

I then bought 85.831 shares . It cost me $3001.50. That's all that matters.
Must I change the name/symbol ?


bobb






"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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> In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:
> > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message

> > news:5ie9005jd436rv6f0qsiojnfd1ujgegdmo[at]4ax.com...
> > > In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I checked and I don't have "showed closed positions" checked.
> > > > When I said "realized gain", I meant it generically - not as a column,
> > > > sorry.
> > > > > So if you check ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions, what
> > > happens to the gain column for that holding? And if you then
> > > un-check ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions, what happens?
> > > > > > With box unchecked it shows 89% gain.

> > With box checked, it shows 17.9% gain as well as ~25 of my old,

non-current
> > closed stocks/funds in grey.
> > > $3,086.48 current basis of the new, (only ) 85.831 shares.

> > -$3,001.50 cost
> > ------------------
> > $84.98 gain / 3,001.50 = 2.83125% gain
> > Perhaps you can display some additional columns for some insight as

> to what all is happening. Also note that dividends are gain too. You
> might like the Price Appreciation column better.



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Old 01-15-2004, 03:50 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:

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> "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
> news:5ie9005jd436rv6f0qsiojnfd1ujgegdmo[at]4ax.com...
> > In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:
> > > > > > I checked and I don't have "showed closed positions" checked.
> > > When I said "realized gain", I meant it generically - not as a column,
> > > sorry.
> > > So if you check ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions, what

> > happens to the gain column for that holding? And if you then
> > un-check ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions, what happens?
> > > With box unchecked it shows 89% gain.

> With box checked, it shows 17.9% gain as well as ~25 of my old, non-current
> closed stocks/funds in grey.
> $3,086.48 current basis of the new, (only ) 85.831 shares.
> -$3,001.50 cost
> ------------------
> $84.98 gain / 3,001.50 = 2.83125% gain


Perhaps you can display some additional columns for some insight as
to what all is happening. Also note that dividends are gain too. You
might like the Price Appreciation column better.


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Old 01-15-2004, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: Realized gain / basis M2004 deluxe

One other thing , if I select view 1 monthROI , 3month ROI, it does show
2.8% ROI in those columns ( both views for
ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions show 2.8% for ROI return there). 1
yr shows 11.8% - both views.

bobb

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> "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
> news:5ie9005jd436rv6f0qsiojnfd1ujgegdmo[at]4ax.com...
> > In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:
> > > > > > I checked and I don't have "showed closed positions" checked.
> > > When I said "realized gain", I meant it generically - not as a column,
> > > sorry.
> > > So if you check ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions, what

> > happens to the gain column for that holding? And if you then
> > un-check ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions, what happens?
> > > With box unchecked it shows 89% gain.

> With box checked, it shows 17.9% gain as well as ~25 of my old,

non-current
> closed stocks/funds in grey.
> $3,086.48 current basis of the new, (only ) 85.831 shares.
> -$3,001.50 cost
> ------------------
> $84.98 gain / 3,001.50 = 2.83125% gain
> Bobb



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Old 01-15-2004, 02:31 AM
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"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:
> > > I checked and I don't have "showed closed positions" checked.

> > When I said "realized gain", I meant it generically - not as a column,
> > sorry.

> So if you check ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions, what
> happens to the gain column for that holding? And if you then
> un-check ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions, what happens?

With box unchecked it shows 89% gain.
With box checked, it shows 17.9% gain as well as ~25 of my old, non-current
closed stocks/funds in grey.

$3,086.48 current basis of the new, (only ) 85.831 shares.
-$3,001.50 cost
------------------
$84.98 gain / 3,001.50 = 2.83125% gain

Bobb


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Old 01-14-2004, 03:44 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:

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> I checked and I don't have "showed closed positions" checked.
> When I said "realized gain", I meant it generically - not as a column,
> sorry.


So if you check ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions, what
happens to the gain column for that holding? And if you then
un-check ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions, what happens?


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Old 01-14-2004, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: Realized gain / basis M2004 deluxe

Hi Cal,

I checked and I don't have "showed closed positions" checked.
When I said "realized gain", I meant it generically - not as a column,
sorry.

Here's an example of what I'm running into:
I owned Fidelity Low-Priced stock fund for years.
I rebalanced my portfoilio on 8/11/03 and it included selling my entire
position in LP Stock Fund. I made good money on it - fine. That's history.

Then they announced that it was closing again so on 12/29/03 I bought $3000
worth of it to reopen the position. Since then, it's gone up $59, yet the
%gain column shows 83% gain. That is true if I include shares that I bought
over the years and sold back in August, but on the new position, my gain is
$59 / $3000 = 1.9667 % not 83%. I'd like it to show 1.9% . I could
delete all the old info, but any way to do so easily in M2004 ?

Thanks as always.

Bobb


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> In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:
> > How to "not display" old info ? In my normal use of Money 2001,2004 , I

do
> > not care about "realized gain" from years ago.

> I assume you are talking about the Portfolio views. Customize your
> views to not display Realized Gain. But that is only part.
> > > For Money, the basis seems to be

> > 1. add all the buys
> > 2. subtract all the sells
> > > the difference is loss/gain.
> > > But if I sold all of a stock/fund in 2002 and just recently bought it

back,
> > I want my basis to be: what I paid for the stock/fund that I RECENTLY
> > bought and now hold - Period.
> > > So regardless that I dollar-cost averaged every week for 3 years into x

> > shares of Fidelity Value Fund , if I sold it ALL and THEN later bought y
> > shares, my cost would be the price paid for the Y shares. How to do that

?
> Then the important part: Uncheck
> ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions. Now the Gain column should
> not reflect the sold positions.



 
Old 01-13-2004, 02:22 AM
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In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:

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> How to "not display" old info ? In my normal use of Money 2001,2004 , I do
> not care about "realized gain" from years ago.


I assume you are talking about the Portfolio views. Customize your
views to not display Realized Gain. But that is only part.


- quote -

> For Money, the basis seems to be
> 1. add all the buys
> 2. subtract all the sells
> the difference is loss/gain.
> But if I sold all of a stock/fund in 2002 and just recently bought it back,
> I want my basis to be: what I paid for the stock/fund that I RECENTLY
> bought and now hold - Period.
> So regardless that I dollar-cost averaged every week for 3 years into x
> shares of Fidelity Value Fund , if I sold it ALL and THEN later bought y
> shares, my cost would be the price paid for the Y shares. How to do that ?


Then the important part: Uncheck
ShowADifferentView-> ShowClosedPositions. Now the Gain column should
not reflect the sold positions.

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Old 01-13-2004, 01:47 AM
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Default Realized gain / basis

How to "not display" old info ? In my normal use of Money 2001,2004 , I do
not care about "realized gain" from years ago.

For Money, the basis seems to be
1. add all the buys
2. subtract all the sells

the difference is loss/gain.

But if I sold all of a stock/fund in 2002 and just recently bought it back,
I want my basis to be: what I paid for the stock/fund that I RECENTLY
bought and now hold - Period.

So regardless that I dollar-cost averaged every week for 3 years into x
shares of Fidelity Value Fund , if I sold it ALL and THEN later bought y
shares, my cost would be the price paid for the Y shares. How to do that ?

thanks,
bobb




 

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