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Old 01-13-2004, 08:37 PM
Mark
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Default Re: Money budgets

I've seen some problems. I just wanted clarification of the specific problem
you were encountering.

-Mark
"Jeff" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40044b17$1[at]katy-news.txucom.net...
- quote -

> I appreciate your help, but have you not had any problems with the budget
> giving you strange numbers? It seems so overt to me.
> "Jeff" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40044897$1[at]katy-news.txucom.net...
> > I deleted out of the Bills & Deposits schedule
> > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > news:eW9tfeg2DHA.2336[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > When you said you took out "everything" from Bills and Deposits, how?
> > > Did you "delete" the Bills and/or Deposits, or "end" them?
> > > Reference
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...41&Product=mny
> > > > > If that wasn't the issue, can you provide some specific examples. i.e.
> > > In the Budget, xyz category shows $100 (or on the "Enter your

expenses"
> > page
> > > the total shows $1234.56). Whereas on the "Review your current budget
> > > status" page, "Expenses: current month" shows a Budgeted amount of

> > $1000.00.
> > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > "Jeff" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4004043b$1[at]katy-news.txucom.net...
> > > > No, I have taken everything out of their and debt reduction planner

to
> > > make
> > > > sure there was nothing to pull from.
> > > > > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:uw2ogmV2DHA.2336[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Money's Budget pulls from the Bills & Deposits area. So, do you

have
> > > some
> > > > > recurring bills and/or deposits entered in Bills & Deposits? Is

that
> > the
> > > > > difference?
> > > > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > > > "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:UtDMb.8811$RV5.8011[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > > > > Ok, I will try again. It is not the individual categories that

are
> > not
> > > > > > showing the correct numbers I entered. It is the total on budget
> > > > reports.
> > > > > > Again when I go to the edit budget and look at all the numbers I

> set
> > > in
> > > > my
> > > > > > budget they are correct and the total expenses is correct. Once

I
> > > finish
> > > > > > however and look at the page with "review your current budget"

as
> > the
> > > > page
> > > > > > heading there is a mini report at the top that lists my "expense
> > > actual"
> > > > > > with a different column "budgeted". I do not know where it is

> > getting
> > > > the
> > > > > > number for budgeted expenses because it is hundreds of dollars

off
> > > from
> > > > > what
> > > > > > I had just set in my budget. Additionally if I go to the "view
> > > reports"
> > > > > and
> > > > > > choose monthly budget the numbers listed on that report for

> > "budgeted
> > > > > > expenses" totals is different than I set in my budget and what

was
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > previous screen. If I go back to "edit budget" the numbers and
> > > > categories
> > > > > > are all set as I entered them...it is just not showing a monthly

> > total
> > > > in
> > > > > > the reports and on the "Review you current budget status" page.
> > > > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:O$GXCTU2DHA.2544[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > Provide some specifics.
> > > > > > > What numbers did you enter and where specifically. ONLY in the
> > > Budget,
> > > > > or
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > you have some "Bills and Deposits" as well that is being

> imported
> > > into
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > Budget?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:0vCMb.8801$RV5.6955[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > > > > > > Examples:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After setting the budget the number entered are all correct

> that
> > I
> > > > > > > entered.
> > > > > > > > However, if you then go back to the budget link on the on

the
> > menu
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > a "Review you current budget status" and in that Income:

> Current
> > > > Month
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the "Expenses: Current Month" the amount that is listed as
> > > budgeted
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > current month is totally different and what I entered in to

be
> > the
> > > > > > budget.
> > > > > > > > And then if you go to "Reports" and then monthly budget the

> > amount
> > > > > shown
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > budgeted is different than what I had set up in the budget.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:%23A$wCVT2DHA.2184[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > Provide some examples of Money not "showing accurate

dollar
> > > > > amounts".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it for example a weekly or biweekly paycheck?
> > > > > > > > > If so, the budget is going to pro-rate it to give you the
> > > monthly
> > > > > > > average
> > > > > > > > > (i.e. 52 weeks divided by 12, or 26 biweekly divided by

12).
> > The
> > > > > > actual
> > > > > > > vs
> > > > > > > > > budget reports will show the months with 4 (or 5) weekly,

> and
> > 2
> > > > (or
> > > > > 3)
> > > > > > > > > bi-weekly paychecks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jonathan Brett" <jonnybrett[at]netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:051701c3d8b7$05f82870$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After
> > > > > > > > > > using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
> > > > > > > > > > didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
> > > > > > > > > > forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
> > > > > > > > > > 2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's

problems
> > > > > > > > > > with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in

the
> > > > > > > > > > budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
> > > > > > > > > > it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
> > > > > > > > > > ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new

version
> > > > > > > > > > is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
> > > > > > > > > > confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated.

Show
> > > > > > > > > > me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
> > > > > > > > > > screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's

unfortunate
> > > > > > > > > > today that programmers put way too much emphasis on

"user-
> > > > > > > > > > friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would

love
> > > > > > > > > > a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but

also
> > > > > > > > > > works with XP.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

  #10  
Old 01-13-2004, 08:01 PM
Jeff
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Posts: n/a
Default Re: Money budgets

I appreciate your help, but have you not had any problems with the budget
giving you strange numbers? It seems so overt to me.
"Jeff" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40044897$1[at]katy-news.txucom.net...
- quote -

> I deleted out of the Bills & Deposits schedule
> "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> news:eW9tfeg2DHA.2336[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > When you said you took out "everything" from Bills and Deposits, how?
> > Did you "delete" the Bills and/or Deposits, or "end" them?
> > Reference

> http://support.microsoft.com/default...41&Product=mny
> > > If that wasn't the issue, can you provide some specific examples. i.e.

> > In the Budget, xyz category shows $100 (or on the "Enter your expenses"

> page
> > the total shows $1234.56). Whereas on the "Review your current budget
> > status" page, "Expenses: current month" shows a Budgeted amount of

> $1000.00.
> > > -Mark
> > > > "Jeff" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:4004043b$1[at]katy-news.txucom.net...
> > > No, I have taken everything out of their and debt reduction planner to

> > make
> > > sure there was nothing to pull from.
> > > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uw2ogmV2DHA.2336[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > Money's Budget pulls from the Bills & Deposits area. So, do you have

> > some
> > > > recurring bills and/or deposits entered in Bills & Deposits? Is that

> the
> > > > difference?
> > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:UtDMb.8811$RV5.8011[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > > > Ok, I will try again. It is not the individual categories that are

> not
> > > > > showing the correct numbers I entered. It is the total on budget
> > > reports.
> > > > > Again when I go to the edit budget and look at all the numbers I

set
> > in
> > > my
> > > > > budget they are correct and the total expenses is correct. Once I

> > finish
> > > > > however and look at the page with "review your current budget" as

> the
> > > page
> > > > > heading there is a mini report at the top that lists my "expense

> > actual"
> > > > > with a different column "budgeted". I do not know where it is

> getting
> > > the
> > > > > number for budgeted expenses because it is hundreds of dollars off

> > from
> > > > what
> > > > > I had just set in my budget. Additionally if I go to the "view

> > reports"
> > > > and
> > > > > choose monthly budget the numbers listed on that report for

> "budgeted
> > > > > expenses" totals is different than I set in my budget and what was

> on
> > > the
> > > > > previous screen. If I go back to "edit budget" the numbers and
> > > categories
> > > > > are all set as I entered them...it is just not showing a monthly

> total
> > > in
> > > > > the reports and on the "Review you current budget status" page.
> > > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:O$GXCTU2DHA.2544[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Provide some specifics.
> > > > > > What numbers did you enter and where specifically. ONLY in the

> > Budget,
> > > > or
> > > > > do
> > > > > > you have some "Bills and Deposits" as well that is being

imported
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > > > Budget?
> > > > > > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > > > > > "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:0vCMb.8801$RV5.6955[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > > > > > Examples:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > After setting the budget the number entered are all correct

that
> I
> > > > > > entered.
> > > > > > > However, if you then go back to the budget link on the on the

> menu
> > > > there
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > a "Review you current budget status" and in that Income:

Current
> > > Month
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > the "Expenses: Current Month" the amount that is listed as

> > budgeted
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > current month is totally different and what I entered in to be

> the
> > > > > budget.
> > > > > > > And then if you go to "Reports" and then monthly budget the

> amount
> > > > shown
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > budgeted is different than what I had set up in the budget.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:%23A$wCVT2DHA.2184[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > Provide some examples of Money not "showing accurate dollar
> > > > amounts".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it for example a weekly or biweekly paycheck?
> > > > > > > > If so, the budget is going to pro-rate it to give you the

> > monthly
> > > > > > average
> > > > > > > > (i.e. 52 weeks divided by 12, or 26 biweekly divided by 12).

> The
> > > > > actual
> > > > > > vs
> > > > > > > > budget reports will show the months with 4 (or 5) weekly,

and
> 2
> > > (or
> > > > 3)
> > > > > > > > bi-weekly paychecks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jonathan Brett" <jonnybrett[at]netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:051701c3d8b7$05f82870$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After
> > > > > > > > > using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
> > > > > > > > > didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
> > > > > > > > > forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
> > > > > > > > > 2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's problems
> > > > > > > > > with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in the
> > > > > > > > > budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
> > > > > > > > > it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
> > > > > > > > > ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new version
> > > > > > > > > is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
> > > > > > > > > confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated. Show
> > > > > > > > > me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
> > > > > > > > > screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's unfortunate
> > > > > > > > > today that programmers put way too much emphasis on "user-
> > > > > > > > > friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would love
> > > > > > > > > a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but also
> > > > > > > > > works with XP.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

  #9  
Old 01-13-2004, 07:51 PM
Jeff
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Money budgets

I deleted out of the Bills & Deposits schedule
"Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
news:eW9tfeg2DHA.2336[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> When you said you took out "everything" from Bills and Deposits, how?
> Did you "delete" the Bills and/or Deposits, or "end" them?
> Reference
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...41&Product=mny
> If that wasn't the issue, can you provide some specific examples. i.e.
> In the Budget, xyz category shows $100 (or on the "Enter your expenses"

page
> the total shows $1234.56). Whereas on the "Review your current budget
> status" page, "Expenses: current month" shows a Budgeted amount of

$1000.00.
> -Mark
> "Jeff" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4004043b$1[at]katy-news.txucom.net...
> > No, I have taken everything out of their and debt reduction planner to

> make
> > sure there was nothing to pull from.
> > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message

> > news:uw2ogmV2DHA.2336[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Money's Budget pulls from the Bills & Deposits area. So, do you have

> some
> > > recurring bills and/or deposits entered in Bills & Deposits? Is that

the
> > > difference?
> > > > > -Mark
> > > > > "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:UtDMb.8811$RV5.8011[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > > Ok, I will try again. It is not the individual categories that are

not
> > > > showing the correct numbers I entered. It is the total on budget

> > reports.
> > > > Again when I go to the edit budget and look at all the numbers I set

> in
> > my
> > > > budget they are correct and the total expenses is correct. Once I

> finish
> > > > however and look at the page with "review your current budget" as

the
> > page
> > > > heading there is a mini report at the top that lists my "expense

> actual"
> > > > with a different column "budgeted". I do not know where it is

getting
> > the
> > > > number for budgeted expenses because it is hundreds of dollars off

> from
> > > what
> > > > I had just set in my budget. Additionally if I go to the "view

> reports"
> > > and
> > > > choose monthly budget the numbers listed on that report for

"budgeted
> > > > expenses" totals is different than I set in my budget and what was

on
> > the
> > > > previous screen. If I go back to "edit budget" the numbers and

> > categories
> > > > are all set as I entered them...it is just not showing a monthly

total
> > in
> > > > the reports and on the "Review you current budget status" page.
> > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:O$GXCTU2DHA.2544[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Provide some specifics.
> > > > > What numbers did you enter and where specifically. ONLY in the

> Budget,
> > > or
> > > > do
> > > > > you have some "Bills and Deposits" as well that is being imported

> into
> > > the
> > > > > Budget?
> > > > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > > > "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:0vCMb.8801$RV5.6955[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > > > > Examples:
> > > > > > > > > > > After setting the budget the number entered are all correct that

I
> > > > > entered.
> > > > > > However, if you then go back to the budget link on the on the

menu
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > > a "Review you current budget status" and in that Income: Current

> > Month
> > > > and
> > > > > > the "Expenses: Current Month" the amount that is listed as

> budgeted
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > current month is totally different and what I entered in to be

the
> > > > budget.
> > > > > > And then if you go to "Reports" and then monthly budget the

amount
> > > shown
> > > > > as
> > > > > > budgeted is different than what I had set up in the budget.
> > > > > > > > > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%23A$wCVT2DHA.2184[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > Provide some examples of Money not "showing accurate dollar
> > > amounts".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it for example a weekly or biweekly paycheck?
> > > > > > > If so, the budget is going to pro-rate it to give you the

> monthly
> > > > > average
> > > > > > > (i.e. 52 weeks divided by 12, or 26 biweekly divided by 12).

The
> > > > actual
> > > > > vs
> > > > > > > budget reports will show the months with 4 (or 5) weekly, and

2
> > (or
> > > 3)
> > > > > > > bi-weekly paychecks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jonathan Brett" <jonnybrett[at]netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:051701c3d8b7$05f82870$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After
> > > > > > > > using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
> > > > > > > > didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
> > > > > > > > forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
> > > > > > > > 2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's problems
> > > > > > > > with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in the
> > > > > > > > budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
> > > > > > > > it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
> > > > > > > > ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new version
> > > > > > > > is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
> > > > > > > > confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated. Show
> > > > > > > > me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
> > > > > > > > screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's unfortunate
> > > > > > > > today that programmers put way too much emphasis on "user-
> > > > > > > > friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would love
> > > > > > > > a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but also
> > > > > > > > works with XP.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

  #8  
Old 01-13-2004, 07:01 PM
Mark
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Money budgets

When you said you took out "everything" from Bills and Deposits, how?
Did you "delete" the Bills and/or Deposits, or "end" them?
Reference
http://support.microsoft.com/default...41&Product=mny

If that wasn't the issue, can you provide some specific examples. i.e.
In the Budget, xyz category shows $100 (or on the "Enter your expenses" page
the total shows $1234.56). Whereas on the "Review your current budget
status" page, "Expenses: current month" shows a Budgeted amount of $1000.00.

-Mark


"Jeff" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4004043b$1[at]katy-news.txucom.net...
- quote -

> No, I have taken everything out of their and debt reduction planner to
make
> sure there was nothing to pull from.
> "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> news:uw2ogmV2DHA.2336[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Money's Budget pulls from the Bills & Deposits area. So, do you have

some
> > recurring bills and/or deposits entered in Bills & Deposits? Is that the
> > difference?
> > > -Mark
> > > "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:UtDMb.8811$RV5.8011[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > Ok, I will try again. It is not the individual categories that are not
> > > showing the correct numbers I entered. It is the total on budget

> reports.
> > > Again when I go to the edit budget and look at all the numbers I set

in
> my
> > > budget they are correct and the total expenses is correct. Once I

finish
> > > however and look at the page with "review your current budget" as the

> page
> > > heading there is a mini report at the top that lists my "expense

actual"
> > > with a different column "budgeted". I do not know where it is getting

> the
> > > number for budgeted expenses because it is hundreds of dollars off

from
> > what
> > > I had just set in my budget. Additionally if I go to the "view

reports"
> > and
> > > choose monthly budget the numbers listed on that report for "budgeted
> > > expenses" totals is different than I set in my budget and what was on

> the
> > > previous screen. If I go back to "edit budget" the numbers and

> categories
> > > are all set as I entered them...it is just not showing a monthly total

> in
> > > the reports and on the "Review you current budget status" page.
> > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > news:O$GXCTU2DHA.2544[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > Provide some specifics.
> > > > What numbers did you enter and where specifically. ONLY in the

Budget,
> > or
> > > do
> > > > you have some "Bills and Deposits" as well that is being imported

into
> > the
> > > > Budget?
> > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:0vCMb.8801$RV5.6955[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > > > Examples:
> > > > > > > > > After setting the budget the number entered are all correct that I
> > > > entered.
> > > > > However, if you then go back to the budget link on the on the menu

> > there
> > > > is
> > > > > a "Review you current budget status" and in that Income: Current

> Month
> > > and
> > > > > the "Expenses: Current Month" the amount that is listed as

budgeted
> in
> > > the
> > > > > current month is totally different and what I entered in to be the
> > > budget.
> > > > > And then if you go to "Reports" and then monthly budget the amount

> > shown
> > > > as
> > > > > budgeted is different than what I had set up in the budget.
> > > > > > > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:%23A$wCVT2DHA.2184[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Provide some examples of Money not "showing accurate dollar

> > amounts".
> > > > > > > > > > > Is it for example a weekly or biweekly paycheck?
> > > > > > If so, the budget is going to pro-rate it to give you the

monthly
> > > > average
> > > > > > (i.e. 52 weeks divided by 12, or 26 biweekly divided by 12). The
> > > actual
> > > > vs
> > > > > > budget reports will show the months with 4 (or 5) weekly, and 2

> (or
> > 3)
> > > > > > bi-weekly paychecks.
> > > > > > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > > > > > "Jonathan Brett" <jonnybrett[at]netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:051701c3d8b7$05f82870$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After
> > > > > > > using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
> > > > > > > didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
> > > > > > > forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
> > > > > > > 2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's problems
> > > > > > > with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in the
> > > > > > > budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
> > > > > > > it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
> > > > > > > ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new version
> > > > > > > is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
> > > > > > > confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated. Show
> > > > > > > me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
> > > > > > > screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's unfortunate
> > > > > > > today that programmers put way too much emphasis on "user-
> > > > > > > friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would love
> > > > > > > a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but also
> > > > > > > works with XP.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

  #7  
Old 01-13-2004, 02:59 PM
Jeff
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No, I have taken everything out of their and debt reduction planner to make
sure there was nothing to pull from.

"Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
news:uw2ogmV2DHA.2336[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Money's Budget pulls from the Bills & Deposits area. So, do you have some
> recurring bills and/or deposits entered in Bills & Deposits? Is that the
> difference?
> -Mark
> "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:UtDMb.8811$RV5.8011[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > Ok, I will try again. It is not the individual categories that are not
> > showing the correct numbers I entered. It is the total on budget

reports.
> > Again when I go to the edit budget and look at all the numbers I set in

my
> > budget they are correct and the total expenses is correct. Once I finish
> > however and look at the page with "review your current budget" as the

page
> > heading there is a mini report at the top that lists my "expense actual"
> > with a different column "budgeted". I do not know where it is getting

the
> > number for budgeted expenses because it is hundreds of dollars off from

> what
> > I had just set in my budget. Additionally if I go to the "view reports"

> and
> > choose monthly budget the numbers listed on that report for "budgeted
> > expenses" totals is different than I set in my budget and what was on

the
> > previous screen. If I go back to "edit budget" the numbers and

categories
> > are all set as I entered them...it is just not showing a monthly total

in
> > the reports and on the "Review you current budget status" page.
> > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > news:O$GXCTU2DHA.2544[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Provide some specifics.
> > > What numbers did you enter and where specifically. ONLY in the Budget,

> or
> > do
> > > you have some "Bills and Deposits" as well that is being imported into

> the
> > > Budget?
> > > > > -Mark
> > > > > "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:0vCMb.8801$RV5.6955[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > > Examples:
> > > > > > > After setting the budget the number entered are all correct that I
> > > entered.
> > > > However, if you then go back to the budget link on the on the menu

> there
> > > is
> > > > a "Review you current budget status" and in that Income: Current

Month
> > and
> > > > the "Expenses: Current Month" the amount that is listed as budgeted

in
> > the
> > > > current month is totally different and what I entered in to be the

> > budget.
> > > > And then if you go to "Reports" and then monthly budget the amount

> shown
> > > as
> > > > budgeted is different than what I had set up in the budget.
> > > > > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23A$wCVT2DHA.2184[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Provide some examples of Money not "showing accurate dollar

> amounts".
> > > > > > > > > Is it for example a weekly or biweekly paycheck?
> > > > > If so, the budget is going to pro-rate it to give you the monthly
> > > average
> > > > > (i.e. 52 weeks divided by 12, or 26 biweekly divided by 12). The

> > actual
> > > vs
> > > > > budget reports will show the months with 4 (or 5) weekly, and 2

(or
> 3)
> > > > > bi-weekly paychecks.
> > > > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > > > "Jonathan Brett" <jonnybrett[at]netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:051701c3d8b7$05f82870$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After
> > > > > > using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
> > > > > > didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
> > > > > > forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
> > > > > > 2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's problems
> > > > > > with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in the
> > > > > > budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
> > > > > > it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
> > > > > > ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new version
> > > > > > is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
> > > > > > confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated. Show
> > > > > > me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
> > > > > > screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's unfortunate
> > > > > > today that programmers put way too much emphasis on "user-
> > > > > > friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would love
> > > > > > a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but also
> > > > > > works with XP.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

  #6  
Old 01-12-2004, 10:15 PM
Mark
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Default Re: Money budgets

Money's Budget pulls from the Bills & Deposits area. So, do you have some
recurring bills and/or deposits entered in Bills & Deposits? Is that the
difference?

-Mark

"J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:UtDMb.8811$RV5.8011[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
- quote -

> Ok, I will try again. It is not the individual categories that are not
> showing the correct numbers I entered. It is the total on budget reports.
> Again when I go to the edit budget and look at all the numbers I set in my
> budget they are correct and the total expenses is correct. Once I finish
> however and look at the page with "review your current budget" as the page
> heading there is a mini report at the top that lists my "expense actual"
> with a different column "budgeted". I do not know where it is getting the
> number for budgeted expenses because it is hundreds of dollars off from

what
> I had just set in my budget. Additionally if I go to the "view reports"

and
> choose monthly budget the numbers listed on that report for "budgeted
> expenses" totals is different than I set in my budget and what was on the
> previous screen. If I go back to "edit budget" the numbers and categories
> are all set as I entered them...it is just not showing a monthly total in
> the reports and on the "Review you current budget status" page.
> "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> news:O$GXCTU2DHA.2544[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Provide some specifics.
> > What numbers did you enter and where specifically. ONLY in the Budget,

or
> do
> > you have some "Bills and Deposits" as well that is being imported into

the
> > Budget?
> > > -Mark
> > > "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:0vCMb.8801$RV5.6955[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > Examples:
> > > > > After setting the budget the number entered are all correct that I

> > entered.
> > > However, if you then go back to the budget link on the on the menu

there
> > is
> > > a "Review you current budget status" and in that Income: Current Month

> and
> > > the "Expenses: Current Month" the amount that is listed as budgeted in

> the
> > > current month is totally different and what I entered in to be the

> budget.
> > > And then if you go to "Reports" and then monthly budget the amount

shown
> > as
> > > budgeted is different than what I had set up in the budget.
> > > > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23A$wCVT2DHA.2184[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Provide some examples of Money not "showing accurate dollar

amounts".
> > > > > > > Is it for example a weekly or biweekly paycheck?
> > > > If so, the budget is going to pro-rate it to give you the monthly

> > average
> > > > (i.e. 52 weeks divided by 12, or 26 biweekly divided by 12). The

> actual
> > vs
> > > > budget reports will show the months with 4 (or 5) weekly, and 2 (or

3)
> > > > bi-weekly paychecks.
> > > > > > > -Mark
> > > > > > > "Jonathan Brett" <jonnybrett[at]netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:051701c3d8b7$05f82870$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After
> > > > > using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
> > > > > didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
> > > > > forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
> > > > > 2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's problems
> > > > > with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in the
> > > > > budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
> > > > > it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
> > > > > ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new version
> > > > > is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
> > > > > confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated. Show
> > > > > me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
> > > > > screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's unfortunate
> > > > > today that programmers put way too much emphasis on "user-
> > > > > friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would love
> > > > > a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but also
> > > > > works with XP.
> > > > > > > > > > >

  #5  
Old 01-12-2004, 08:30 PM
J Davidson
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Ok, I will try again. It is not the individual categories that are not
showing the correct numbers I entered. It is the total on budget reports.
Again when I go to the edit budget and look at all the numbers I set in my
budget they are correct and the total expenses is correct. Once I finish
however and look at the page with "review your current budget" as the page
heading there is a mini report at the top that lists my "expense actual"
with a different column "budgeted". I do not know where it is getting the
number for budgeted expenses because it is hundreds of dollars off from what
I had just set in my budget. Additionally if I go to the "view reports" and
choose monthly budget the numbers listed on that report for "budgeted
expenses" totals is different than I set in my budget and what was on the
previous screen. If I go back to "edit budget" the numbers and categories
are all set as I entered them...it is just not showing a monthly total in
the reports and on the "Review you current budget status" page.
"Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
news:O$GXCTU2DHA.2544[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Provide some specifics.
> What numbers did you enter and where specifically. ONLY in the Budget, or

do
> you have some "Bills and Deposits" as well that is being imported into the
> Budget?
> -Mark
> "J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0vCMb.8801$RV5.6955[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > Examples:
> > > After setting the budget the number entered are all correct that I

> entered.
> > However, if you then go back to the budget link on the on the menu there

> is
> > a "Review you current budget status" and in that Income: Current Month

and
> > the "Expenses: Current Month" the amount that is listed as budgeted in

the
> > current month is totally different and what I entered in to be the

budget.
> > And then if you go to "Reports" and then monthly budget the amount shown

> as
> > budgeted is different than what I had set up in the budget.
> > > "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message

> > news:%23A$wCVT2DHA.2184[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Provide some examples of Money not "showing accurate dollar amounts".
> > > > > Is it for example a weekly or biweekly paycheck?
> > > If so, the budget is going to pro-rate it to give you the monthly

> average
> > > (i.e. 52 weeks divided by 12, or 26 biweekly divided by 12). The

actual
> vs
> > > budget reports will show the months with 4 (or 5) weekly, and 2 (or 3)
> > > bi-weekly paychecks.
> > > > > -Mark
> > > > > "Jonathan Brett" <jonnybrett[at]netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > news:051701c3d8b7$05f82870$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After
> > > > using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
> > > > didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
> > > > forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
> > > > 2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's problems
> > > > with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in the
> > > > budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
> > > > it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
> > > > ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new version
> > > > is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
> > > > confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated. Show
> > > > me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
> > > > screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's unfortunate
> > > > today that programmers put way too much emphasis on "user-
> > > > friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would love
> > > > a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but also
> > > > works with XP.
> > > > >

  #4  
Old 01-12-2004, 07:46 PM
Mark
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Default Re: Money budgets

Provide some specifics.
What numbers did you enter and where specifically. ONLY in the Budget, or do
you have some "Bills and Deposits" as well that is being imported into the
Budget?

-Mark

"J Davidson" <jldavid[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0vCMb.8801$RV5.6955[at]fe2.texas.rr.com...
- quote -

> Examples:
> After setting the budget the number entered are all correct that I

entered.
> However, if you then go back to the budget link on the on the menu there

is
> a "Review you current budget status" and in that Income: Current Month and
> the "Expenses: Current Month" the amount that is listed as budgeted in the
> current month is totally different and what I entered in to be the budget.
> And then if you go to "Reports" and then monthly budget the amount shown

as
> budgeted is different than what I had set up in the budget.
> "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
> news:%23A$wCVT2DHA.2184[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Provide some examples of Money not "showing accurate dollar amounts".
> > > Is it for example a weekly or biweekly paycheck?

> > If so, the budget is going to pro-rate it to give you the monthly

average
> > (i.e. 52 weeks divided by 12, or 26 biweekly divided by 12). The actual

vs
> > budget reports will show the months with 4 (or 5) weekly, and 2 (or 3)
> > bi-weekly paychecks.
> > > -Mark
> > > "Jonathan Brett" <jonnybrett[at]netzero.net> wrote in message

> > news:051701c3d8b7$05f82870$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > > > > I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After
> > > using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
> > > didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
> > > forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
> > > 2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's problems
> > > with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in the
> > > budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
> > > it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
> > > ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new version
> > > is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
> > > confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated. Show
> > > me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
> > > screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's unfortunate
> > > today that programmers put way too much emphasis on "user-
> > > friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would love
> > > a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but also
> > > works with XP.

>

  #3  
Old 01-12-2004, 07:23 PM
J Davidson
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Default Re: Money budgets

Examples:

After setting the budget the number entered are all correct that I entered.
However, if you then go back to the budget link on the on the menu there is
a "Review you current budget status" and in that Income: Current Month and
the "Expenses: Current Month" the amount that is listed as budgeted in the
current month is totally different and what I entered in to be the budget.
And then if you go to "Reports" and then monthly budget the amount shown as
budgeted is different than what I had set up in the budget.

"Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
news:%23A$wCVT2DHA.2184[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Provide some examples of Money not "showing accurate dollar amounts".
> Is it for example a weekly or biweekly paycheck?
> If so, the budget is going to pro-rate it to give you the monthly average
> (i.e. 52 weeks divided by 12, or 26 biweekly divided by 12). The actual vs
> budget reports will show the months with 4 (or 5) weekly, and 2 (or 3)
> bi-weekly paychecks.
> -Mark
> "Jonathan Brett" <jonnybrett[at]netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:051701c3d8b7$05f82870$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > > I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After

> > using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
> > didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
> > forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
> > 2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's problems
> > with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in the
> > budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
> > it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
> > ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new version
> > is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
> > confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated. Show
> > me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
> > screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's unfortunate
> > today that programmers put way too much emphasis on "user-
> > friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would love
> > a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but also
> > works with XP.



  #2  
Old 01-12-2004, 05:55 PM
Mark
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Default Re: Money budgets

Provide some examples of Money not "showing accurate dollar amounts".

Is it for example a weekly or biweekly paycheck?
If so, the budget is going to pro-rate it to give you the monthly average
(i.e. 52 weeks divided by 12, or 26 biweekly divided by 12). The actual vs
budget reports will show the months with 4 (or 5) weekly, and 2 (or 3)
bi-weekly paychecks.

-Mark

"Jonathan Brett" <jonnybrett[at]netzero.net> wrote in message
news:051701c3d8b7$05f82870$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
- quote -

> I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After
> using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
> didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
> forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
> 2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's problems
> with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in the
> budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
> it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
> ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new version
> is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
> confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated. Show
> me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
> screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's unfortunate
> today that programmers put way too much emphasis on "user-
> friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would love
> a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but also
> works with XP.



  #1  
Old 01-12-2004, 02:51 AM
Jonathan Brett
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Default Money budgets


I hear ya. I too am having the same frustrations. After
using 3.0 for 9 years, and upgrading to WindowsXP, 3.0
didn't function properly. Now, after being indirectly
forced to use a newer version of Money, I bought Money
2004, and have been very unimpressed due to it's problems
with showing accurate dollar amounts. Specifically in the
budget portion. This is boggling to me: A program that
it's sole purpose is accounting and dealing with numbers
ought to be able to do just that. Instead this new version
is filled with a bunch of wasted grapical tools and
confusing screens that make basic tasks complicated. Show
me the correct numbers not the "soft feel" of cartoonish
screens prevalent on modern day programs. It's unfortunate
today that programmers put way too much emphasis on "user-
friendly" rather than better-performing. I too would love
a version that is straight-forward like 3.0 was, but also
works with XP.
 
Old 01-08-2004, 04:55 PM
SJCOHEN730
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- quote -

> Subject: Money budgets
> From: anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com
> Date: 1/7/2004 11:06 PM Eastern Standard Time
> Message-id: <061301c3d59c$d286f420$a601280a[at]phx.gbl> I have used Money 2.0 for years for my fire department
> budgets and have 10 years of data. I could keep tabs of
> year to date spending with actual, budgeted, and
> difference. I had to upgrade to XP for my fire software,
> and now money 2.0 does not work. I upgraded to Money 2000
> but the budgeting does not work like in Money 2.0, the
> budgeted amounts change, and they have all this occasional
> fields and monthly and fields I don't need. Microsoft
> recognizes this problem. Is there a version that will work
> with XP and have the old budgeting like in Money 2.0?
> Maybe 4.0 or 97 that will work on XP.


My suggestion is that you forget about Money 2.0 and use a simple worksheet
like Excel to do your actual versus budget analysis. Steve
  #-1  
Old 01-08-2004, 04:06 AM
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Default Money budgets

I have used Money 2.0 for years for my fire department
budgets and have 10 years of data. I could keep tabs of
year to date spending with actual, budgeted, and
difference. I had to upgrade to XP for my fire software,
and now money 2.0 does not work. I upgraded to Money 2000
but the budgeting does not work like in Money 2.0, the
budgeted amounts change, and they have all this occasional
fields and monthly and fields I don't need. Microsoft
recognizes this problem. Is there a version that will work
with XP and have the old budgeting like in Money 2.0?
Maybe 4.0 or 97 that will work on XP.
 

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Microsoft Money 1 11-01-2003 12:13 AM
Credit Transactions & Budgets
Ed F.: Looking for recommendations: Trying to figure out how to best set up my budget to reflect credit charges and the payments I then make the to the...
Microsoft Money 1 08-14-2003 02:17 AM



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