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| I'm suprised that Microsoft has not added more functionality in this area. It seems that credit card companies are coming up with about every gimmic promotion you could imagine to get your business these days. Really there is a lot that could be added here, such as: * Break a credit card balance into multiple user defined subcategories, with different interest rates and promotional periods. (For example, one rate for purchases, another for cash advances, and another for balance transfers... which might or might not share the same credit limit or other attributes.) * Automatically track various types of transactions and classify these as being added to the appropriate subcategory. (IE, transactions transferring funds to another account would be classified as and added to the balance transfer rate subcategory, or purchases made before a certain date or over a specified amount should fall under another subcategory.) * Define "90 days same as cash" or "18 months no interest" with not only a selection of how long the promotional rate will last, but also what penalty there might be if it isn't paid in full or meets some other criteria by that date. Add not only the ability to raise the interest rate from that day forth, but also to tack on additional charges that could be computed based on the account's balance history (ie, recalculate a higher rate of interest back to the original purchase dates.) I've seen Microsoft Money suggest to me that I should not pay down debt accounts beyond just the minimum payments when it sees that the interest rates are lower than the rates I am getting on a savings plan. If it was possible to define clearly to Microsoft Money what happens at the end of the 18 month promotional period on my account, I'm sure that it would suggest saving a few dollars each month and then paying off half the balance all in one baloon payment at the end... There's no point in letting the company have my money early when I'm not being charged interest at all. But, this directly effects the budget and savings plans. The money has to be readily available on that 18th month, or else I'd be pentalized greatly and therefore it should make adjustments to those plans to ensure that the necessary funds are available on the appropriate date. Then there are also the low-rate but high payment loans, in which it sometimes makes more sense to transfer the balance off to a slightly higher rate consolidation account just to eliminate the minimum payment and associated paperwork. Sometimes decisions like this can only clearly be made when you take into consideration all of the fine print on the accounts, which Microsoft Money currently has nowhere to deal with. -Jeff "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in message news:OGspLby0DHA.2872[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... - quote - > I'm thinking that this analysis may stump DRP given the interest rate > reversion requirement you raise. This is one of many non-standard scenarios > that DRP just doesn't handle well. Maybe it would be best to factor in that > interest rate from the get go. Let DRP figure out the best way to pay it > down assuming that you'll ultimately end up paying that interest--here I'm > assuming that the interest reversion just applies to your declining balance > over time. > Scenario analysis in Excel may be your only hope of solving this one. But > the time might be better spent job hunting. Good luck. > "Jeff Phillips" <jeff_phil_NO_SPAM_PLEASE_[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vvh60fh9gsri44[at]corp.supernews.com... > > Point taken. However, I'm comparing two what-if senerios. ... |
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| I'm thinking that this analysis may stump DRP given the interest rate reversion requirement you raise. This is one of many non-standard scenarios that DRP just doesn't handle well. Maybe it would be best to factor in that interest rate from the get go. Let DRP figure out the best way to pay it down assuming that you'll ultimately end up paying that interest--here I'm assuming that the interest reversion just applies to your declining balance over time. Scenario analysis in Excel may be your only hope of solving this one. But the time might be better spent job hunting. Good luck. "Jeff Phillips" <jeff_phil_NO_SPAM_PLEASE_[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vvh60fh9gsri44[at]corp.supernews.com... - quote - > Point taken. However, I'm comparing two what-if senerios. ... |
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| Umm... No... I guess I wasn't clear. Microsoft Money has no problem letting me indicate the 0.0% introductory APR for the first 18 months. However, after the 18 months is over MS-Money assumes that the rate will change from that day forth. In reality, if there is even one penny of the balance remaining after the 18th month then Best Buy / Household Bank will charge me some absurd interest rate for the entire balance times all of the previous months dated back to the original purchase date. What I want to do is indicate to Microsoft Money that it absolutely must have that entire balance paid by the 18th month, but I still want to be able to use the Debt Reduction Planner to see if it would be in my best interest to transfer the balance over to a consolidated loan at a higher interest rate. (It obviously makes sense to consolidate the cards that are at a higher rate than the loan, but I'm not sure if it makes sense to raise the rate on this balance in order to eliminate the monthly payment.) -Jeff "Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message news:eDeKC$x0DHA.1908[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... - quote - > How about assigning it a false non-zero interest rate like 0.0001%? > "Jeff Phillips" <jeff_phil_NO_SPAM_PLEASE_[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vvh60fh9gsri44[at]corp.supernews.com... > > Point taken. However, I'm comparing two what-if senerios. Given several > > credit cards, and being unemployed, I can barely meet the minimums on them > > all. I want to consolidate the cards all into one loan, which generally is > a > > lower interest rate. However, it is obviously higher than the zero percent > > on the best buy card so I'm not sure if I should leave that out of the > > consolidation or not. If I leave it out, I'll have to have the lump sum at > > the 18th month, which means I'd have to have put a few extra dollars away > > which might not be in my best interest if those dollars could be used to > pay > > down the other debts given the choice of consolidating them all. > > > -Jeff > > > > "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in > > message news:#SfG4Dw0DHA.2580[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > > To heck with DRP. Just schedule a one-time payment for 17+ months from > > now. > > > > > "Jeff Phillips" <jeff_phil_NO_SPAM_PLEASE_[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:vvgs17q01ri218[at]corp.supernews.com... > > > > How do I get my Household Bank / Best Buy credit card information > added > > to > > > > my debt reduction planner? If I made a major purchase on their zero > > > interest > > > > financing for 18 months plan, and they only want a very low minimum > > > payment > > > > each month until then, then I need to somehow indicate that the > > remainding > > > > balance no matter how high it is, absolutely must be paid by the 18th > > > month. > > > > Otherwise, they will go and add on a lot of interest for all of the > > > previous > > > > 18 months. > > > > > > > When I indicate to Microsoft Money that an intro rate is in effect of > > 0.0% > > > > until May of 2005, then the only option it gives me for what shall > > happen > > > at > > > > the end of this is a new fixed interest rate for from there on out. Is > > > there > > > > no way to indicate that on that date if a balance remains then it will > > > > back-date the interest for 18 months worth? > > > > > > > I tried just feeding it some false data to trick it into thinking that > > it > > > > would be more important to pay that card off by the 18th month than > some > > > of > > > > the other ones. For example, I tried telling MS Money that the fixed > > rate > > > > after the 18th month is 100%. Even at 100% interest Microsoft Money is > > > > suggesting that I let the balance slide for a couple of months beyond > > the > > > > 18th month before it wants me to pay it off completely. > > > > > > > -Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > |
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| How about assigning it a false non-zero interest rate like 0.0001%? "Jeff Phillips" <jeff_phil_NO_SPAM_PLEASE_[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vvh60fh9gsri44[at]corp.supernews.com... - quote - > Point taken. However, I'm comparing two what-if senerios. Given several > credit cards, and being unemployed, I can barely meet the minimums on them > all. I want to consolidate the cards all into one loan, which generally is a > lower interest rate. However, it is obviously higher than the zero percent > on the best buy card so I'm not sure if I should leave that out of the > consolidation or not. If I leave it out, I'll have to have the lump sum at > the 18th month, which means I'd have to have put a few extra dollars away > which might not be in my best interest if those dollars could be used to pay > down the other debts given the choice of consolidating them all. > -Jeff > "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in > message news:#SfG4Dw0DHA.2580[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > To heck with DRP. Just schedule a one-time payment for 17+ months from > now. > > > "Jeff Phillips" <jeff_phil_NO_SPAM_PLEASE_[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:vvgs17q01ri218[at]corp.supernews.com... > > > How do I get my Household Bank / Best Buy credit card information added > to > > > my debt reduction planner? If I made a major purchase on their zero > > interest > > > financing for 18 months plan, and they only want a very low minimum > > payment > > > each month until then, then I need to somehow indicate that the > remainding > > > balance no matter how high it is, absolutely must be paid by the 18th > > month. > > > Otherwise, they will go and add on a lot of interest for all of the > > previous > > > 18 months. > > > > > When I indicate to Microsoft Money that an intro rate is in effect of > 0.0% > > > until May of 2005, then the only option it gives me for what shall > happen > > at > > > the end of this is a new fixed interest rate for from there on out. Is > > there > > > no way to indicate that on that date if a balance remains then it will > > > back-date the interest for 18 months worth? > > > > > I tried just feeding it some false data to trick it into thinking that > it > > > would be more important to pay that card off by the 18th month than some > > of > > > the other ones. For example, I tried telling MS Money that the fixed > rate > > > after the 18th month is 100%. Even at 100% interest Microsoft Money is > > > suggesting that I let the balance slide for a couple of months beyond > the > > > 18th month before it wants me to pay it off completely. > > > > > -Jeff > > > > > |
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| Point taken. However, I'm comparing two what-if senerios. Given several credit cards, and being unemployed, I can barely meet the minimums on them all. I want to consolidate the cards all into one loan, which generally is a lower interest rate. However, it is obviously higher than the zero percent on the best buy card so I'm not sure if I should leave that out of the consolidation or not. If I leave it out, I'll have to have the lump sum at the 18th month, which means I'd have to have put a few extra dollars away which might not be in my best interest if those dollars could be used to pay down the other debts given the choice of consolidating them all. -Jeff "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in message news:#SfG4Dw0DHA.2580[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... - quote - > To heck with DRP. Just schedule a one-time payment for 17+ months from now. > "Jeff Phillips" <jeff_phil_NO_SPAM_PLEASE_[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vvgs17q01ri218[at]corp.supernews.com... > > How do I get my Household Bank / Best Buy credit card information added to > > my debt reduction planner? If I made a major purchase on their zero > interest > > financing for 18 months plan, and they only want a very low minimum > payment > > each month until then, then I need to somehow indicate that the remainding > > balance no matter how high it is, absolutely must be paid by the 18th > month. > > Otherwise, they will go and add on a lot of interest for all of the > previous > > 18 months. > > > When I indicate to Microsoft Money that an intro rate is in effect of 0.0% > > until May of 2005, then the only option it gives me for what shall happen > at > > the end of this is a new fixed interest rate for from there on out. Is > there > > no way to indicate that on that date if a balance remains then it will > > back-date the interest for 18 months worth? > > > I tried just feeding it some false data to trick it into thinking that it > > would be more important to pay that card off by the 18th month than some > of > > the other ones. For example, I tried telling MS Money that the fixed rate > > after the 18th month is 100%. Even at 100% interest Microsoft Money is > > suggesting that I let the balance slide for a couple of months beyond the > > 18th month before it wants me to pay it off completely. > > > -Jeff > |
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| To heck with DRP. Just schedule a one-time payment for 17+ months from now. "Jeff Phillips" <jeff_phil_NO_SPAM_PLEASE_[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vvgs17q01ri218[at]corp.supernews.com... - quote - > How do I get my Household Bank / Best Buy credit card information added to > my debt reduction planner? If I made a major purchase on their zero interest > financing for 18 months plan, and they only want a very low minimum payment > each month until then, then I need to somehow indicate that the remainding > balance no matter how high it is, absolutely must be paid by the 18th month. > Otherwise, they will go and add on a lot of interest for all of the previous > 18 months. > When I indicate to Microsoft Money that an intro rate is in effect of 0.0% > until May of 2005, then the only option it gives me for what shall happen at > the end of this is a new fixed interest rate for from there on out. Is there > no way to indicate that on that date if a balance remains then it will > back-date the interest for 18 months worth? > I tried just feeding it some false data to trick it into thinking that it > would be more important to pay that card off by the 18th month than some of > the other ones. For example, I tried telling MS Money that the fixed rate > after the 18th month is 100%. Even at 100% interest Microsoft Money is > suggesting that I let the balance slide for a couple of months beyond the > 18th month before it wants me to pay it off completely. > -Jeff |
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| How do I get my Household Bank / Best Buy credit card information added to my debt reduction planner? If I made a major purchase on their zero interest financing for 18 months plan, and they only want a very low minimum payment each month until then, then I need to somehow indicate that the remainding balance no matter how high it is, absolutely must be paid by the 18th month. Otherwise, they will go and add on a lot of interest for all of the previous 18 months. When I indicate to Microsoft Money that an intro rate is in effect of 0.0% until May of 2005, then the only option it gives me for what shall happen at the end of this is a new fixed interest rate for from there on out. Is there no way to indicate that on that date if a balance remains then it will back-date the interest for 18 months worth? I tried just feeding it some false data to trick it into thinking that it would be more important to pay that card off by the 18th month than some of the other ones. For example, I tried telling MS Money that the fixed rate after the 18th month is 100%. Even at 100% interest Microsoft Money is suggesting that I let the balance slide for a couple of months beyond the 18th month before it wants me to pay it off completely. -Jeff |
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