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| Thanks. Makes sense now. -- ______________________ Jim Gaughran domerjim[at]mweb.co.za ______________________ "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enuf_already-spring.com> wrote in message news:uTzRtLV1DHA.2604[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... - quote - > It makes your "archived" data inaccessible without complication. > I doesn't archive all the transactions. (Lot Basis makes it hard to do this, > so Money doesn't even attempt.) > It makes an archive file that overlaps the real file. (Unless you set > tomorrow or something as the archive data.) > The "archived" data is in a soon-to-be-obsolete file format that will get > only more obsolete over time. > There is no practical way to undo it. > It make long term comparisons and trending difficult to impossible. > Many people find it buggy in various versions. > If you store things like serial numbers and so forth in memo information, it > makes it difficult to get at this information. > "Jim Gaughran" <domerjim[at]mweb.co.za> wrote in message > news:3ffc2e4a.0[at]news1.mweb.co.za... > > Ok, new guy stupid question. Why shouldn't I archive? I keep seeing > people > > saying not to, but I have yet to see a reason why. Thanks. |
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| It makes your "archived" data inaccessible without complication. I doesn't archive all the transactions. (Lot Basis makes it hard to do this, so Money doesn't even attempt.) It makes an archive file that overlaps the real file. (Unless you set tomorrow or something as the archive data.) The "archived" data is in a soon-to-be-obsolete file format that will get only more obsolete over time. There is no practical way to undo it. It make long term comparisons and trending difficult to impossible. Many people find it buggy in various versions. If you store things like serial numbers and so forth in memo information, it makes it difficult to get at this information. "Jim Gaughran" <domerjim[at]mweb.co.za> wrote in message news:3ffc2e4a.0[at]news1.mweb.co.za... - quote - > Ok, new guy stupid question. Why shouldn't I archive? I keep seeing people > saying not to, but I have yet to see a reason why. Thanks. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Jim Gaughran wrote: - quote - > Ok, new guy stupid question. Why shouldn't I archive? I keep seeing people
Most people mistakenly assume they can re-integrate the archived> saying not to, but I have yet to see a reason why. Thanks. data later. See FAQ available at http://www.bollar.org/msmoney/ for information. |
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| Ok, new guy stupid question. Why shouldn't I archive? I keep seeing people saying not to, but I have yet to see a reason why. Thanks. -- ______________________ Jim Gaughran domerjim[at]mweb.co.za ______________________ "Barry Schwarz" <schwarzb[at]deloz.net> wrote in message news:bta7fv$p05$0[at]216.39.143.22... - quote - > On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:32:42 -0800, "M.Kleinbeck" <balrog[at]qwest.net> wrote: > > Happy new year to all! > > > I am a newcommer to MS Money 2003 and I need to know how > > to close out the year and begin a new year. I have > > searched through the help function and I can find nothing > > regarding this topic. Is the program designed to continue > > adding data year after year in the same db file? I > > appreciate any help on this topic. > > There is nothing you need to do. Don't even attempt an archive. > If you have reports which specify dates rather than "current year," > you may wish to adjust those. > <<Remove the del for email> |
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| Don't recall which version. M2K, maybe? Forward and backward compatibility? There is none for Money files. All previous files are supported for upgrade, though not all do, but each version has unique file format. (Database structure, as the case may be.) MSISAM is probably Microsoft Indexed Sequential Access Method. "Frank" <fvbarger[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ud0YqFO1DHA.2116[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... - quote - > This is very interesting to me, but I sense that I'm coming in at the middle > of a conversation. I'd heard that Money was no longer using Jet and now > employs some other data base system. Apparently that's MSISAM. With which > version of Money did that occur, and what are the implications for forward > and backward compatibility? I'm using 2002 Deluxe & Business and haven't > found features in subsequent editions to make me want to upgrade, but > staying in step with the current file system might be good justification. > Incidentally, what does MSISAM stand for? |
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| This is very interesting to me, but I sense that I'm coming in at the middle of a conversation. I'd heard that Money was no longer using Jet and now employs some other data base system. Apparently that's MSISAM. With which version of Money did that occur, and what are the implications for forward and backward compatibility? I'm using 2002 Deluxe & Business and haven't found features in subsequent editions to make me want to upgrade, but staying in step with the current file system might be good justification. Incidentally, what does MSISAM stand for? Frank "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in message news:OUO%23Bgy0DHA.1740[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... - quote - > Besides MoneyLink, not. The biggest reason behind moving it from Jet to > MSISAM appears from the outside to be that MSISAM is a whole lot tighter > than Jet and doesn't expose/document its external interfaces. If you go > looking in the binary files, they both look very similar at the head anyway. > For this reason, I suspect that MSISAM is very Jet-like. > "jankin" <chagin_one[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.1a62682087d076619896b4[at]news-server.nc.rr.com... > > In article <u1lIAXu0DHA.4032[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl> , > > littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com says... > > > Jet/MSISAM database > > > > Are there shareware or freeware tools to allow one to look at the > > database structure and entries outside of MSM? |
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| Besides MoneyLink, not. The biggest reason behind moving it from Jet to MSISAM appears from the outside to be that MSISAM is a whole lot tighter than Jet and doesn't expose/document its external interfaces. If you go looking in the binary files, they both look very similar at the head anyway. For this reason, I suspect that MSISAM is very Jet-like. "jankin" <chagin_one[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1a62682087d076619896b4[at]news-server.nc.rr.com... - quote - > In article <u1lIAXu0DHA.4032[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl> , > littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com says... > > Jet/MSISAM database > > Are there shareware or freeware tools to allow one to look at the > database structure and entries outside of MSM? |
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| On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:32:42 -0800, "M.Kleinbeck" <balrog[at]qwest.netwrote: - quote - > Happy new year to all! > I am a newcommer to MS Money 2003 and I need to know how > to close out the year and begin a new year. I have > searched through the help function and I can find nothing > regarding this topic. Is the program designed to continue > adding data year after year in the same db file? I > appreciate any help on this topic. There is nothing you need to do. Don't even attempt an archive. If you have reports which specify dates rather than "current year," you may wish to adjust those. <<Remove the del for email> |
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| In article <u1lIAXu0DHA.4032[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl> , littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com says... - quote - > Jet/MSISAM database
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| Sure you can jump in. A properly designed database should have total scalability. I have over ten years worth of data in my file and the one problem I've had like that in the last several years was semi-self-induced. I opened the same file that was open on the desktop from the notebook. Corruption resulted. I say semi- because I think Money SHOULD support this case safely rather than puking over it. Money is built on the Jet/MSISAM database engine. Some VERY LARGE (by PC standards, and not so swift, but that's another subject) databases have been built on that. My experience is that the damage and complication caused by archiving exceeds in the here and now the likelihood of problems caused by not archiving--particularly if a robust backup strategy is employed. As always, YMMV. "Tony T" <ttappan[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:062501c3d2df$042f8930$a401280a[at]phx.gbl... - quote - > Can I jump into this conversation? I know that Money > doesn't care about years or dates when building a data > file, but at some point, without archiving, isn't there a > DB stability issue? I ask because I just switched from > Quicken precisely because I got sick of watching my data > become unstable and eventually corrupted beyond repair. I > would love to believe Money doesn't have this issue but I > need to be convinced. |
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| Can I jump into this conversation? I know that Money doesn't care about years or dates when building a data file, but at some point, without archiving, isn't there a DB stability issue? I ask because I just switched from Quicken precisely because I got sick of watching my data become unstable and eventually corrupted beyond repair. I would love to believe Money doesn't have this issue but I need to be convinced. - quote - > -----Original Message----- > Money doesn't particularly know or care that it's a new year. Just keep > trucking. I do not recommend archiving. > "M.Kleinbeck" <balrog[at]qwest.net> wrote in message > news:017201c3d241$1e62e250$a501280a[at]phx.gbl... > > Happy new year to all! > > > I am a newcommer to MS Money 2003 and I need to know how > > to close out the year and begin a new year. I have > > searched through the help function and I can find nothing > > regarding this topic. Is the program designed to continue > > adding data year after year in the same db file? I > > appreciate any help on this topic. > > > . |
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| Hi I use an older version (y2k business & pers) & it just continues on year after year. You just set your reports for specific periods (last 12 mo., ytd, previous year, etc.) as far as I know. You can archive previous years to speed things up & they save in a separate file as I recall. I archived everything over 2 or 3 years old about a year ago. Hope this helps! Lew "M.Kleinbeck" <balrog[at]qwest.net> wrote in message news:017201c3d241$1e62e250$a501280a[at]phx.gbl... - quote - > Happy new year to all! > I am a newcommer to MS Money 2003 and I need to know how > to close out the year and begin a new year. I have > searched through the help function and I can find nothing > regarding this topic. Is the program designed to continue > adding data year after year in the same db file? I > appreciate any help on this topic. |
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| - quote - > Subject: Closing out old year
the data is in the file. You apparently have a wrong assumption that archiving> From: "anonymous" anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com > Date: 1/3/2004 8:20 PM Eastern Standard Time > Message-id: <02ce01c3d260$f10efad0$a501280a[at]phx.gbl> if you do not start with fresh data at least print out > the 2003 reports. WHY anonymous? The 2003 report can be printed out at anytime in the future if somehow does something in Money. I would suggest the poster follow Dick Watson's advise. Steve |
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| if you do not start with fresh data at least print out the 2003 reports. - quote - > -----Original Message----- > Happy new year to all! > I am a newcommer to MS Money 2003 and I need to know how > to close out the year and begin a new year. I have > searched through the help function and I can find nothing > regarding this topic. Is the program designed to continue > adding data year after year in the same db file? I > appreciate any help on this topic. > . |
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| Money doesn't particularly know or care that it's a new year. Just keep trucking. I do not recommend archiving. "M.Kleinbeck" <balrog[at]qwest.net> wrote in message news:017201c3d241$1e62e250$a501280a[at]phx.gbl... - quote - > Happy new year to all! > I am a newcommer to MS Money 2003 and I need to know how > to close out the year and begin a new year. I have > searched through the help function and I can find nothing > regarding this topic. Is the program designed to continue > adding data year after year in the same db file? I > appreciate any help on this topic. |
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| archive the old and start with numbers. - quote - > -----Original Message----- > Happy new year to all! > I am a newcommer to MS Money 2003 and I need to know how > to close out the year and begin a new year. I have > searched through the help function and I can find nothing > regarding this topic. Is the program designed to continue > adding data year after year in the same db file? I > appreciate any help on this topic. > . |
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| Happy new year to all! I am a newcommer to MS Money 2003 and I need to know how to close out the year and begin a new year. I have searched through the help function and I can find nothing regarding this topic. Is the program designed to continue adding data year after year in the same db file? I appreciate any help on this topic. |
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