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Old 02-02-2009, 04:41 AM
Marilyn & Bob
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Thank you for that information Cal. It's good we can all correct each
other.
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"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
news:ss5co4d52rdcmsjop6s3ej2tnchv5aotmh[at]4ax.com...
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> In microsoft.public.money, Marilyn & Bob wrote:
> > I think Dick (who does not download) is wrong on this one. The ability to
> > download bank and credit card information *is scheduled* to stop working
> > two
> > years (with Deluxe) after Money is activated. This is true even if you
> > manually download the data from the bank's website.

> While that was originally planned for 2005 and 2006, when the
> expiration times for those came they did not actually disable the
> ability to download from the bank's website or from OFX servers at
> your FI that were already set up in the Money file before
> expiration.
> > Now I say *scheduled*
> > to stop working as that is what the license says. But that was based on
> > the
> > plan that there would be a new version of Money each year. And M$ has
> > apparently now abandoned that plan. While M$ stopped producing an annual
> > update of their International version in 2005, they continue to allow
> > users
> > to download with that product. So the answer is that none of us know what
> > M$ will do when the two years are up. They could just let the downloads
> > continue or they could charge a reregistration of Money at an additional
> > fee
> > for it to continue to work.



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Old 02-01-2009, 09:46 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Marilyn & Bob wrote:

- quote -

> I think Dick (who does not download) is wrong on this one. The ability to
> download bank and credit card information *is scheduled* to stop working two
> years (with Deluxe) after Money is activated. This is true even if you
> manually download the data from the bank's website.


While that was originally planned for 2005 and 2006, when the
expiration times for those came they did not actually disable the
ability to download from the bank's website or from OFX servers at
your FI that were already set up in the Money file before
expiration.

- quote -

> Now I say *scheduled*
> to stop working as that is what the license says. But that was based on the
> plan that there would be a new version of Money each year. And M$ has
> apparently now abandoned that plan. While M$ stopped producing an annual
> update of their International version in 2005, they continue to allow users
> to download with that product. So the answer is that none of us know what
> M$ will do when the two years are up. They could just let the downloads
> continue or they could charge a reregistration of Money at an additional fee
> for it to continue to work.

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Old 02-01-2009, 09:13 PM
Marilyn & Bob
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I think Dick (who does not download) is wrong on this one. The ability to
download bank and credit card information *is scheduled* to stop working two
years (with Deluxe) after Money is activated. This is true even if you
manually download the data from the bank's website. Now I say *scheduled*
to stop working as that is what the license says. But that was based on the
plan that there would be a new version of Money each year. And M$ has
apparently now abandoned that plan. While M$ stopped producing an annual
update of their International version in 2005, they continue to allow users
to download with that product. So the answer is that none of us know what
M$ will do when the two years are up. They could just let the downloads
continue or they could charge a reregistration of Money at an additional fee
for it to continue to work.
--
Peace,
BobJ

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:eqIrBDJhJHA.3728[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
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> "It Depends"
> Some banks allow direct connection you to them and it is believed these
> will continue to work. Others require going through Microsoft and Yodlee
> and these will terminate or have some fee-based extension is the best
> present guess.
> You can decode which is which from the tool at the Microsoft site
> (somewhere in http://www.microsoft.com/money") the words "direct connect*
> *via third party services" which means Yodlee or similar.
> "Jerry Bank" <bankcello[at]verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:21dcdc22-c20b-421e-81a4-131d0e36e20e[at]o40g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> What I want to know is whether I will be able to download my activity
> from credit cards and bank accounts and have Money accept that. That
> is what goes away in Quicken.



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Old 02-01-2009, 05:15 PM
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"It Depends"

Some banks allow direct connection you to them and it is believed these will
continue to work. Others require going through Microsoft and Yodlee and
these will terminate or have some fee-based extension is the best present
guess.

You can decode which is which from the tool at the Microsoft site (somewhere
in http://www.microsoft.com/money") the words "direct connect* *via third
party services" which means Yodlee or similar.

"Jerry Bank" <bankcello[at]verizon.net> wrote in message
news:21dcdc22-c20b-421e-81a4-131d0e36e20e[at]o40g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
What I want to know is whether I will be able to download my activity
from credit cards and bank accounts and have Money accept that. That
is what goes away in Quicken.

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Old 02-01-2009, 12:11 PM
Jerry Bank
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What I want to know is whether I will be able to download my activity
from credit cards and bank accounts and have Money accept that. That
is what goes away in Quicken.

On Jan 31, 5:46*pm, "Dick Watson" <littlegreenge...[at]mind-enufalready-
spring.com> wrote:
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> Well, I don't know the exact question they thought they were answering.
> Beyond that, your guess is as good as mine. Either or both seem possible.I
> could quote the EULA or the "Online Services Policy" or refer you to
> postings of people who have "fallen off the wagon" already. It doesn't stop
> working entirely--maybe that's the question they thought they were answering
> or the one they actually wanted to answer. The web-based services that cost
> Microsoft ongoing money to provide will not last forever for free. Of
> course, support (such as it has been) and things like tax estimator rate
> updates won't last forever either, but the policy on those isn't as
> explicit.
> "Jerry Bank" <bankce...[at]peoplepc.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.23ee9629387bdb6598968b[at]msnews.microsoft.com...

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Old 01-31-2009, 10:46 PM
Dick Watson
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Well, I don't know the exact question they thought they were answering.
Beyond that, your guess is as good as mine. Either or both seem possible. I
could quote the EULA or the "Online Services Policy" or refer you to
postings of people who have "fallen off the wagon" already. It doesn't stop
working entirely--maybe that's the question they thought they were answering
or the one they actually wanted to answer. The web-based services that cost
Microsoft ongoing money to provide will not last forever for free. Of
course, support (such as it has been) and things like tax estimator rate
updates won't last forever either, but the policy on those isn't as
explicit.

"Jerry Bank" <bankcello[at]peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.23ee9629387bdb6598968b[at]msnews.microsoft.com...
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> This is interesting, since the support people at Microsoft claim that
> there is no time limit. Are they just uninformed or are they lying?


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Old 01-31-2009, 10:09 PM
Jerry Bank
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In article <Oi1dAU8gJHA.2384[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> ,
littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com says...
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> Short answer is yes. Long answer is still basically yes. Money would
> probably not have done it if Quicken hadn't done it first. Of course, if
> Quicken hadn't done it, it might have sped up Microsoft's timetable to exit
> the business.
> The better current question is will there be any alternatives to the
> functionality going away completely? In the recent past, users have gotten
> around this by buying the new versions. As of this writing Microsoft's
> future release plan for Money is, at best, "TBD". Recent pruning of units at
> Microsoft that aren't meeting their business case objectives *may not* bode
> well that this particular path will keep Money working into the future.
> Their may be other paths offered. None have been as of yet. We just don't
> know anything about the status of the Money effort inside Microsoft.
> "Jerry Bank" <bankcello[at]verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:c9e4b18a-99a0-431f-9981-97e23c367c15[at]q36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> > I have used Quicken for many years. However, they have a policy of
> > the program losing some of its functionality after two years. Does MS
> > Money do the same thing?

This is interesting, since the support people at Microsoft claim that
there is no time limit. Are they just uninformed or are they lying?
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:57 PM
Dick Watson
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Short answer is yes. Long answer is still basically yes. Money would
probably not have done it if Quicken hadn't done it first. Of course, if
Quicken hadn't done it, it might have sped up Microsoft's timetable to exit
the business.

The better current question is will there be any alternatives to the
functionality going away completely? In the recent past, users have gotten
around this by buying the new versions. As of this writing Microsoft's
future release plan for Money is, at best, "TBD". Recent pruning of units at
Microsoft that aren't meeting their business case objectives *may not* bode
well that this particular path will keep Money working into the future.
Their may be other paths offered. None have been as of yet. We just don't
know anything about the status of the Money effort inside Microsoft.

"Jerry Bank" <bankcello[at]verizon.net> wrote in message
news:c9e4b18a-99a0-431f-9981-97e23c367c15[at]q36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
- quote -

> I have used Quicken for many years. However, they have a policy of
> the program losing some of its functionality after two years. Does MS
> Money do the same thing?


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Old 01-31-2009, 02:58 PM
Jerry Bank
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Default Does MS Money lose functionality

I have used Quicken for many years. However, they have a policy of
the program losing some of its functionality after two years. Does MS
Money do the same thing?

Thanks.
 

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